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REWARD: Profile to stream ALAC to Yamaha NXN500 Speakers (MusicCast)

KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
edited August 2017 in DLNA

Hi

I can't steam ALAC (Apple Lossless) files via DLNA from Plex. I have a pair of Yamaha N-XN500 active speakers that support ALAC (in fact, I'm using a different DLNA client to stream ALAC files right now).

Would be grateful to anyone that can write me a profile so I can stream Apple Lossless files. Will throw in a small reward of $5 (not much I know but better than nothing!).

Thanks

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  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    Accepted Answer

    @utiko said:
    Hi @KettyKrueger, I have the same issue with ALAC on MusicCast. Still cannot make this profile properly by myself... Can you share your one with me?

    Hey, sorry for the delay.

    Sure, it's attached. Hope it works for you.

  • utikoutiko Posts: 2Members
    Accepted Answer

    @KettyKrueger thank you so much, adopted your profile to use it with RX-V483 and WX-030, works for both my devices!

Answers

  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Any ideas? Sorry to bump this.

    I've tried writing one myself by modifying an existing Yamaha profile but that didn't work, I need professional help!

  • Ery7Ery7 Posts: 6Members, Plex Pass ✭✭

    I have the same problem: Cannot stream ALAC files from Plex DLNA to Yamaha NX-N500. Other formats work ok.
    Any suggestions from anyone?

  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Bump for the weekend.

  • jmckeejmckee Posts: 5,062Members, Plex Pass, Plex Ninja Plex Ninja

    There is no Yamaha profile that comes with Plex so when a Yahama device requests a file that file is sent directly to the device as if it were a simple file transfer.

    If the ALAC file specifically is causing a problem you would need to install/create a DLNA profile for the device that converts the ALAC file to a format that can be played back without issues.

  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Thanks for the reply.

    I'm aware of that but have been unsuccessfully in creating the profile file.

    Do anyone have a file for Yamaha products that I could adapt?

    @jmckee said:
    There is no Yamaha profile that comes with Plex so when a Yahama device requests a file that file is sent directly to the device as if it were a simple file transfer.

    If the ALAC file specifically is causing a problem you would need to install/create a DLNA profile for the device that converts the ALAC file to a format that can be played back without issues.

  • ijhammoijhammo Posts: 196Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited July 2017

    Did anyone every get this working? I still haven' t and really want to ditch the Serviio DLNA server and do everything in Plex

  • ijhammoijhammo Posts: 196Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Bump - still have not been able to get this to work!

  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    No sorry. I'm still using Twonky but would love to use Plex too.

  • ijhammoijhammo Posts: 196Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    It must be doable - writing the profile should in theory be doable as the devices support ALAC when using Twonky and Serviio. Must be someone out there who knows how to do it.

    I'd happily pay for someone to do it!

  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Please see update for reward!!!!!

  • Frank LoganFrank Logan Posts: 90Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @KettyKrueger said:
    Please see update for reward!!!!!

    Not sure if your issues was resolved... but if you value your time, and feel that your services are worth a certain dollar amount based on the worth of your work.. then so do others. Supply and demand here seem to be rather uneven. No supply, but constant demand. You may want to tack a zero to the right of that 5.

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  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @Frank Logan said:

    @KettyKrueger said:
    Please see update for reward!!!!!

    Not sure if your issues was resolved... but if you value your time, and feel that your services are worth a certain dollar amount based on the worth of your work.. then so do others. Supply and demand here seem to be rather uneven. No supply, but constant demand. You may want to tack a zero to the right of that 5.

    Ha - yeah I know, a meagre reward!

    I've sort of resolved my problem. I went to the trouble of writing my own profile, well, I cobbled one together from looking at other profiles. That and countless hours of trial and error.

    It's not perfect as it doesn't direct play ALAC files, which was the point really, but I've got it to transcode to FLAC. ALAC to FLAC to better than nothing.

    Happy to share if anyone is interested.

  • KettyKruegerKettyKrueger Posts: 64Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    Accepted Answer

    @utiko said:
    Hi @KettyKrueger, I have the same issue with ALAC on MusicCast. Still cannot make this profile properly by myself... Can you share your one with me?

    Hey, sorry for the delay.

    Sure, it's attached. Hope it works for you.

  • utikoutiko Posts: 2Members
    Accepted Answer

    @KettyKrueger thank you so much, adopted your profile to use it with RX-V483 and WX-030, works for both my devices!

  • doctr.eevildoctr.eevil Posts: 5Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Hi could someone help me with step by step instructions on how to do this as I've been hoping to get my WX-030 to work with AlAC files via DLNA from my Plex server on my Mac mini.

    Many thanks in advance.

  • photoluxphotolux Posts: 6Members ✭✭
    edited February 1

    Hi there! It looks like i've resolved the issue with direct playing for ALAC. Please see the attached profile for my MusicCast-enabled Yamaha CRX-N470. Shortly, the issue was in the incorrect mime-type which was video/mp4 rather than audio/m4a. I hope it will be helpful!

  • LegoyodaxLegoyodax Posts: 1Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited May 31

    Hi ya all,

    I found this thread to be very useful and managed to get ALAC playing across all my devices using the info from the posts here (thanks Photolux and KettyKrueger) and have created a catch-all profile for a number of Yamaha products (WX-010, WX-030, RX-A1070, NX-N500). So this is about sharing that and explaining how to add more to the profile.

    I'm doing this on Plex on a Synology so my profile path was: //@appstore/Plex Media Server/Resources/Profiles

    One thing I noticed when I was experimenting trying to work out how to get all devices in the one profile (as there are multiple entries for iPhone etc.) is that plex requires a stop/start to read the new profiles. Evidenced by the first profile I got working transcoding ALAC to mp3 despite removing the lines below (brackets changed due to forum post formatting) and power cycling the MusicCast device:

    (TranscodeTargets)
    (MusicProfile container="mp3" codec="mp3" /)
    (/TranscodeTargets>)

    Removing the above and doing a start/stop of Plex service allowed a refresh and the MusicCast app to run in ALAC (see Screenshot).

    Anyway, below is the XML I modified from the people in the above posts (thank you both). For those wanting to expand to include more devices note the following:

    I was initially confused by the 'Client name' header. However, it's not important. It's a friendly name you call the profile (the file is called MusicCast.xml).

    The 'User-Agent:.. Substring' was found by:

    1. attempting to connect and play something via each client from the MusicCast Application (which fails with 'unable to play')
    2. Downloading the logs from the Plex server (go to PlexWebClient >> Settings >> Server >> Help >> Download Logs).
    3. Search for the word 'generic'. you should find a line similar to my output below:

    DEBUG - Mapped client to generic profile: Host: 192.168.23.1:32469; User-Agent: Network_Module/1.0 (RX-A1070) UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.50; Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"; Content-Length: 470; SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"; Cache-Control: no-cache; Pragma: no-cache
    _
    4. Note the name of the device appears in this string RX-A1070. This is the text you place in the User-Agent substring field.
    5. Add this in to the XML, save it as MusicCast.xml and you're done. When successful the log looks like:

    DEBUG - Mapped client to profile MusicCast using header User-Agent: Network_Module/1.0 (RX-A1070) UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.50

    The is the XML I have working across all devices is attached. Thank you to all contributors to this thread. I now understand a heck of a lot more about XML and the workings of DLNA...

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