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Trying to Combine a Box Set

dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

I purchased a 3 DVD box set and am trying to get it into PMS. I have run each disc through CloneDVD and now have 3 ISO files. When I try running through Handbrake each file has 13 titles. I experimented with the first ISO files and created 13 mkv files through Handbrake. I then tried combining all files using MKVToolNix but I keep getting an error (something about the track heights are different). How can I get this boxset as 1 mkv files so I can watch it on my PMS?

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  • NO_D0ZENO_D0ZE Posts: 7Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    https://makemkv.com/ will turn your DVD's and Blu-Rays into MKV.

  • JuiceWSAJuiceWSA Posts: 6,453Members ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12

    MakeMKV, as stated is the only way to fly.

    The one thing you do NOT want to do is smash all those tracks into one big one. They are comprised of movie extras, deleted scenes, those cute animations that play when you plug the disc into the player, the selection screens for said player and a whole lot of other stuff you don't want - like those FBI warnings - in 10 languages.

    What you DO want to do is to identify the tracks you do want and Handbrake those separately making sure you include the audio tracks you want (and don't want) and any sub title files you can either include as tracks or burn in.

    If you can identify the tracks you want during the initial MakeMKV rip you can add or bypass those, but I find it's easier to do that later when you can actually see/hear what you have. If you decide to want to keep and maintain the original quality, you can remux the stuff you want and don't want on a second pass through Xmedia Recode, including reformating image based subtitles into UTF-8 (Subrip), normalization of audio track levels and/or reformatting audio tracks for Direct Play while leaving the video track untouched.
    http://www.xmedia-recode.de/en/download.html

    AFTER you get your separate movies, extras, etc into file form then you can add them to a library and sort them so they'll display all together and in the order of release, or any other order you choose:
    https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1342502/#Comment_1342502

    Tony

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  • dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Thanks for the replies. I’ll try it out tonight. Not familiar with MakeMKV. Sounds like that will basically take the place of me running DVD’s through CloneDVD and Handbrake?

  • dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    The box set I’m working with is The McCartney Years. Most of the titles are only 3-9 minutes long but are music videos or interviews so it is definitely stuff I want to include. I previewed everything and there doesn’t seem to be all that “extra stuff” that is usually not wanted when dealing with a movie.

  • JuiceWSAJuiceWSA Posts: 6,453Members ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12

    Yea, if you don't mind movies clocking in at 30Gigs with bit rates exceeding 30Mbps... You're golden.

    Otherwise you're in for a recode, done by something. Handbrake guide in my sig.

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  • OttoKernerOttoKerner Posts: 25,205Members, Plex Pass, Plex Ninja Plex Ninja
    edited October 12

    All those extras can be included as 'Local Extras', if you don't want or can't combine all into one large file.
    see https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200220677-Local-Media-Assets-Movies

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  • dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Update - I ran disc 1 through MakeMKV and selected the titles I wanted (13 total). It just finished and I see that it created 13 individual mkv files. What next? I would like them all in one file. I would be okay with each disc (3) being their own file in Plex, but what about getting all mkv files from each disc into one file?

  • leelyndsleelynds Posts: 965Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @dj.guillory@outlook.com said:
    I then tried combining all files using MKVToolNix but I keep getting an error (something about the track heights are different). How can I get this boxset as 1 mkv files so I can watch it on my PMS?

    and...

    Update - I ran disc 1 through MakeMKV and selected the titles I wanted (13 total). It just finished and I see that it created 13 individual mkv files. What next? I would like them all in one file. I would be okay with each disc (3) being their own file in Plex, but what about getting all mkv files from each disc into one file?

    You're probably trying to do the opposite of what most people want to do. :) Generally, people want each file separate.

    In order to make them one file, you have to have the same resolution and frame rate and audio format. The extras on DVD's and Blu-rays can be a pain because they can all over the place. You are likely going to have to use some sort of software to convert them all to the same size and frame rate and audio, and then you can combine them with MKVToolnix.

    I don't use Handbrake, but I'm sure you can set a resolution and frame rate and audio type. Someone with some Handbrake expertise will likely step in here. The other problem is, DVDs might have anamorphic 4X3 content, anamorphic 16X9 content and either of those could be in progressive or interlaced. You could have 4 types of video (or more, depending on the audio) to try and convert into one consistent format. You might have to do some homework on cropping, adding borders, etc to get it all to work.

  • dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Thanks for that. Yes, this is totally opposite of what I normally do (especially TV shows on one DVD).

  • JuiceWSAJuiceWSA Posts: 6,453Members ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13

    Seems like an Epic Bad Idea to me.

    So you have one movie and 12 extras. You go through an enormous amount of work to get these extras and your movie in similar shape so you can append the extras to the end of your movie (or the beginning - where many of them are spoilers). Then you have to hunt for the extras by FF and RW until you find the extra - invariably missing a few. Then let's say Plex is transcoding - each time you FF or RW Plex has to transcode - so you wait, and wait, and wait while it buffers, then you start watching - at the wrong place - and you go hunting again.

    Uh... I'll pass on that idea.

    Or - you simply add your Extras in the normal way and end up with the Movie as one item, then you can select your Extras one at a time - as it's designed. Plex gets many things wrong or defies logic at times, but the way Plex handles Movie Extras is one of it's best features.

    Here's an example - Star Trek Nemesis with a whole bunch of Extras - can you imagine trying to find one of these guys if it's part of a Movie that's 2 hours long? I can't:

    This is the Plexweb View - kinda dumb, but it's handled a LOT better in most clients... still.... it's way easier to pick one of the extras, or one of those 3 Commentary Tracks...:

    https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200220677-Local-Media-Assets-Movies

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  • dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Thanks for this info, Juice! Adding extras like this is something I have never done but it sounds like this is the way I should go. I’ll just need to figure out the folder structure. The box set I’m working with has 3 DVD’s. On disc 1 there are two titles that are about 1.5 hours long. The other 11 titles range from 3-9 minutes each. If I’m reading your post correctly, I could combine the 2 main features together than add the others as extras. I’m assuming the other 2 DVD’s are similar. If so I would set them up the same way and just have all 3 setup individually. Hope I’m on the right track here. It’s either that or tell my wife she needs to watch them in the BluRay player, if it still works!

  • leelyndsleelynds Posts: 965Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    ^^^ Exactly what I would do. But, when I googled that Box set, It appears to be a collection of music videos, and there's not really a main movie feature.

    But, from what I can find, the whole set is in the same aspect ratio of 16:9. From Wikipedia: "All videos have been digitally remastered, and the videos that were originally shot with an aspect ratio of 1.33 : 1 have been blown up to 1.78 "

    I would try using the original 13 files that MakeMkv gave you, and BEFORE you run them through handbrake, combine them into one file with MKVToolnix. Better chance of all the parts matching up that way.

  • JuiceWSAJuiceWSA Posts: 6,453Members ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13

    Here it is:
    https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/315025-the-mccartney-years
    Paul McCartney: The McCartney Years (2007)

    So, in this case running some of them, at least, back to back might be a good idea. There seems to be a documentary - at least one. If I had it, I'd MakeMKV everything and look at it, figure out what you want to do with the parts you have then make it happen in some way that makes sense to you.

    Perhaps make the Documentary the main feature - then add the tunes as the extras. Difficult to know what to do without having seen what's there.

    I might also consider putting it all in a TV Show format, but unfortunately I just went looking for it at TVDB and it wasn't there, so if you were to make it a TV Show it would require hand editing, but in the end make it more accessible.

    A TV Show Library/
    ......The McCartney Years/
    .........Season 01/
    ............The McCartney Years - S01E01 - The Documentary.xxx
    ............The McCartney Years - S01E02 - Something else.xxx
    ............The McCartney Years - S01E03 - Music Video 1.xxx
    etc.

    If, in the edit, you gave each one a consecutive air date they'd run from On Deck one after the other. That would be a lot of work, but might make more sense in the long run.

    Then again - if you have a McCartney Section in your music library - or want to create one you could add them to that library as Music Videos:
    https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/205568377-Adding-Local-Artist-and-Music-Videos

    There are a lot of options and beauty is in the eye of the guy that's got the material.

    lol

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  • dj.guillory@outlook.comdj.guillory@outlook.com Posts: 40Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Thanks again! I will give this a run tonight. I have worked on disc 1 and have all 13 “episodes” in movie format.

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