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Plex ignoring GDPR which comes into force on 25th May 2018

Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

Any update from Plex about compliance with this, which is only a couple of months away?

Will Plex be compliant on the 25th May 2018?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

"The proposed new EU data protection regime extends the scope of the EU data protection law to all foreign companies processing data of EU residents. It provides for a harmonisation of the data protection regulations throughout the EU, thereby making it easier for non-European companies to comply with these regulations; however, this comes at the cost of a strict data protection compliance regime with severe penalties of up to 4% of worldwide turnover."

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  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
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    @NewPlaza said:

    Out of interest @NewPlaza are you living in an EU country that can take advantage of the GDPR legislation?

  • abssorbabssorb Posts: 20Members ✭✭
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    GDPR is already in force and has been since Mar 2016. What's happening on May 25th is enforcement actions will start.

    These are not just words and GDPR has real teeth. The EU has had enough of the lawyers weaving small-print magic to try and extract people's private data from them with double meanings and automatic opt-in buried in 10 pages of T&C that no-one reads. That all ends on 25th May. And any past data harvested in this way becomes unusable 25th May.

    Not singling out the poster, but this is an often held perspective:

    They own you nothing, no explanation, no time table, no ETA, squat. When they are ready to give that information, they will. YOU can't do sht about it nor can you do sht to them(aside from discontinuing the use of their products and services) until that day, so why harass them.

    That's how it used to be. The company had all the power and the user could either swallow unfair T&C or leave.

    But now the governments have stepped in and flipped it. Now the user has the power. Companies must treat the user fairly, recognise that you cannot overule statutes and comply. The companies can't do sh*t about it, apart from stop trading in the EU.

    One thing that all businesses need to be ready for, is that a psuedo-DDOS type activity could hit them. Any member of the public can make a Subject Access Request. If a company has a particularly bad reputation, it's an easy thing for a group to arrange to swamp them with SARs on 26th May, which they cannot ignore.

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  • BigWheelBigWheel Posts: 10,246Members, Plex Employee, Plex Pass, Plex Ninja Plex Employee

    We are working towards being in compliance when it goes into effect. Nothing else to share at this time.

    Logs > https://support.plex.tv/articles/201869908-log-files/
  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited February 14

    It would be nice to get an update by the 1st May, as regards Plex compliance.

    Don't want it to go down to the wire in terms of compliance.

    Plex could be reported for potentially not being compliant on the 25th, due to lack of response on compliance from Plex, which I hope will not happen, as it would be a very large fine if Plex is not compliant with GDPR!

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  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited April 16

    GDPR goes into effect in just over one month's time.

    I have noticed a couple of areas in which Plex's current Privacy Policy, https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/, is currently not in compliance with GDPR.

    Does Plex have an eta on when these will be resolved and will Plex be fully in compliance with GDPR?

    This needs to be resolved by the 24th May 2018, as the enforcement starts on the next day.

  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @Trotter999 said:
    Does Plex have an eta on when these will be resolved and will Plex be fully in compliance with GDPR?

    Does it matter? ETA 05/24/2018

    This needs to be resolved by the 24th May 2018, as the enforcement starts on the next day.

    Do you think you need to tell them this.

  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited April 16

    @NewPlaza said:
    Do you think you need to tell them this.

    Yes, I do think I need to tell them this, Plex may think that they are fully GDPR compliant at the moment, but they need to prove so by 24/05/2018.

    The current Plex Privacy Policy has a couple of issues with GDPR and is possibly not compliant with GDPR, but it needs to be, by the 24th May 2018.

  • JuiceWSAJuiceWSA Posts: 7,878Members ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oooooo... they must be quaking in their boots.

    Doing all that work must be the reason they can't make Exo-Skeleton 2 work on any Android Device, deal with all those un-dealt with Feature Requests or fix 800 outstanding bugs that are old enough to draw social security.

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  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @JuiceWSA said:
    Oooooo... they must be quaking in their boots.

    Doing all that work must be the reason they can't make Exo-Skeleton 2 work on any Android Device, deal with all those un-dealt with Feature Requests or fix 800 outstanding bugs that are old enough to draw social security.

    I would love them to fix all these issues as well

  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    But they can be fined by the EU, if Plex are not GDRP compliant, 4% of World Wide turnover.

  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @Trotter999 said:
    Yes, I do think I need to tell them this, Plex may think that they are fully GDPR compliant at the moment, but they need to prove so by 24/05/2018.

    Plex may think that they are fully GDPR compliant as much as you think you need to tell them.... There is an agency for this and I'm sure they will thoroughly check for compliance.

    They own you nothing, no explanation, no time table, no ETA, squat. When they are ready to give that information, they will. YOU can't do sht about it nor can you do sht to them(aside from discontinuing the use of their products and services) until that day, so why harass them. Why is it so important to you anyway, did you make a bet with a friend and don't want to lose? What will you have to do? Run in the streets naked or something?

  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
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    @NewPlaza said:

    Out of interest @NewPlaza are you living in an EU country that can take advantage of the GDPR legislation?

  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited April 16

    @Trotter999 said:

    @NewPlaza said:

    Out of interest @NewPlaza are you living in an EU country that can take advantage of the GDPR legislation?

    LOL! No. I'm from a location that believes we are all fu*ked! The illusion we have privacy is strong. It's almost as powerful as religion

  • JuiceWSAJuiceWSA Posts: 7,878Members ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16

    I don't know about Plaza, but I live in WV where we thumb our nose at ALL authoriti.

    If Plex has any fines to pay - there's a never ending shaft down a data mine nearby.

    lol

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  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited April 16

    I mean, it goes right back to this little question. How do you keep a secret among 3 friends?

  • Trotter999Trotter999 Posts: 101Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    edited April 16

    GDPR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation, is in my opinion, a very good first start on Privacy, it does apply to Plex, as they have the customer's in the EU, including me.

    Would love to also see the same level of privacy legislation in the US?

  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @Trotter999 said:
    GDPR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation, is in my opinion, a very good first start on Privacy, it does apply to Plex, as they have the customer's in the EU.

    Would love to also see the same level of privacy legislation in the US.

    Oh, I'm not going to argue that point. It may just be a good start. BUT I sure in the hell know this in time will be superseded because of some bullsh*t war/terror attack that the governments will have to make a change to it. Happens every time.

  • Elijah_BaleyElijah_Baley Posts: 4,977Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    GDPR is just a set of words. Any company's privacy policy is just a set of words. Neither has any real meaning in the current world.

    We can either bask in the illusion of privacy or accept that, if we interact with the world at all, we have no real privacy.

    The fact is that all documents like GDPR do is make lawyers a BUNCH of money. There is no real privacy protection for individuals we are all at the mercy of all the companies that glean data from the internet and many other sources.

    People need to take their own measures to protect their privacy and not rely on the dubious power of words to protect them.

    Personally I don't care if Plex is in compliance with GDPR and I do not really care what their privacy policy says. It is only important to me that their product works. I take measures to limit what any company can find about me but I accept that the measures I take are quite imperfect and companies know a LOT more about me than I would like. I just believe that I am not important enough to warrant companies taking action that would directly injure me.

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  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Well said @Elijah_Baley

  • Elijah_BaleyElijah_Baley Posts: 4,977Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @NewPlaza said:
    I mean, it goes right back to this little question. How do you keep a secret among 3 friends?

    The best way to keep a secret is to tell no one.
    The second best way is to tell one other person.
    There is no third best way.

    I "think" I first heard that on NCIS said by Abby Sciuto (Pauley Perrette)

    “The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.” Philip K. Dic*k (This STUPID forum software does not allow a perfectly valid last name, hence the unusual looking formating)

    From a High School paper on Greek Philosophers:
    "Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people advice. They killed him. Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock."

  • NewPlazaNewPlaza Posts: 1,754Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    @Elijah_Baley said:

    @NewPlaza said:
    I mean, it goes right back to this little question. How do you keep a secret among 3 friends?

    The best way to keep a secret is to tell no one.
    The second best way is to tell one other person.
    There is no third best way.

    I "think" I first heard that on NCIS said by Abby Sciuto (Pauley Perrette)

    My thoughts were to kill the other two.

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