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How much space does video metadata take?

BarbequewolfBarbequewolf Members, Plex Pass Posts: 17 ✭✭

I've encoded roughly 270 movies with about 400 more to go. If metadata is stored on internal storage and cannot currently use adapted storage, at what point or quantity do I encounter memory issues on the 16G version of the Shield?

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  • tom80Htom80H Members, Plex Pass Posts: 2,273 Plex Pass
    Accepted Answer

    depends... metadata at its core is mainly text which you can pretty much ignore (should only add up to Megabytes at best). Posters (covers, backgrounds/backdrops, banners) will be different, there it depends on the media quality.

    Plex usually downloads posters from The Movie Database -- those are usually 1000x1500px for posters and 1920x1080px for backgrounds. Sizes can vary but tend to be in the range from 200-500 kB (avg. 350 kB). So your 16 GB storage might actually become a bottleneck when you approach ~40,000 items.

    However... Plex will also keep some copies of posters it found during matching. I've just checked out some of those packages. In my example, that's another 350kB (for a whole bundle of poster/background icons at lower resolution). This brings you down to sufficient space for "only" ~20,000 items ;)

    The actual true bottleneck/drain is if you activate local media assets. Plex will manage copies of those in its library (so you have them in your filespace along the movies/media files and they'll be stored in the library). If you e.g. download high-quality album posters from iTunes or use background images from a Blu-Ray Disk, those will be much bigger. Real world example w/ 2 posters (4-8 MB each) and 1 background image (2.5 MB)... adding up to ~17 MB. Lets assume you're more organized than I am and stick with 1 local poster and therefore assume it's only 8-10 MB. So if you use all your 16 GB of internal storage for Plex metadata alone w/ local media assets activated and widely used, you'll get to ~1,600 items.

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  • tom80Htom80H Members, Plex Pass Posts: 2,273 Plex Pass
    Accepted Answer

    depends... metadata at its core is mainly text which you can pretty much ignore (should only add up to Megabytes at best). Posters (covers, backgrounds/backdrops, banners) will be different, there it depends on the media quality.

    Plex usually downloads posters from The Movie Database -- those are usually 1000x1500px for posters and 1920x1080px for backgrounds. Sizes can vary but tend to be in the range from 200-500 kB (avg. 350 kB). So your 16 GB storage might actually become a bottleneck when you approach ~40,000 items.

    However... Plex will also keep some copies of posters it found during matching. I've just checked out some of those packages. In my example, that's another 350kB (for a whole bundle of poster/background icons at lower resolution). This brings you down to sufficient space for "only" ~20,000 items ;)

    The actual true bottleneck/drain is if you activate local media assets. Plex will manage copies of those in its library (so you have them in your filespace along the movies/media files and they'll be stored in the library). If you e.g. download high-quality album posters from iTunes or use background images from a Blu-Ray Disk, those will be much bigger. Real world example w/ 2 posters (4-8 MB each) and 1 background image (2.5 MB)... adding up to ~17 MB. Lets assume you're more organized than I am and stick with 1 local poster and therefore assume it's only 8-10 MB. So if you use all your 16 GB of internal storage for Plex metadata alone w/ local media assets activated and widely used, you'll get to ~1,600 items.

  • BarbequewolfBarbequewolf Members, Plex Pass Posts: 17 ✭✭

    I appreciate you answering this. My library consists of mostly DVDs, 95%, and the balance in BD. Not a huge library in comparison. I'm not expecting to download too many apps on the Shield. So based on your theory, I should be fine with the 16GB version.

  • Strategizer8520Strategizer8520 Members, Plex Pass Posts: 60 Plex Pass
    edited January 14

    With your setup, I believe you'll be ok with plenty of space remaining.

    I have 2200 movies in my library. I reset my PMS not to long ago & after all the metadata & so on was added, My PMS was around 3GB-4GB in size. Once I added 45 full tv series, Its went up to 6.2GB.

    I have my Shield Tv rooted & PMS reinstalled to 250GB SSD adoptive storage, So I have no need to worry about space. But I believe if you have PMS on internal storage, You need to keep at least 2GB-2.6GB of storage free, Otherwise you'll have trouble installing Shield Tv system updates, Random errors & system wide slow downs which will lead to the Shield Tv crashing every now & then.

  • BarbequewolfBarbequewolf Members, Plex Pass Posts: 17 ✭✭

    Again, thanks for your assurance. I disgust this with others outside the forum and they said the same.

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