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marknealmarkneal Posts: 23Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

Should we hold back until someone gives the all clear here, that they haven't blocked PlexConnect?

 

An update was just announced:

http://www.cultofmac.com/242575/new-apple-tv-update-brings-vevo-disney-channel-disney-xd-more/

 

Thanks, couldn't see this topic, hope its not a dupe

 

Edit:

It appears that today's forced channel updates have broken our use of the 'Trailer' channel.

It was not a firmware update.

It may be related to fixes being done to the Trailer channel to make it work with current beta firmwares.

 

I hope PlexConnect can be tweaked to adapt to changes like this

 

Edit 2: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1628099

 

Quote:

 

Latest Apple TV Update Breaks PlexConnect Client

Tuesday August 27, 2013 3:34 pm PDT by Jordan Golson
Today's Apple TV update breaks the PlexConnect client that allowed Plex -- the advanced server-client media player -- to run on non-jailbroken Apple TV devices.

Plex allows users to store movie and TV show files on a server and then view those files on a wide variety of client devices including Macs, PCs, a number of smart televisions, the Roku box and the Apple TV. The server also connects to Internet databases to pull IMDB-type metadata on media.

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The client, called PlexConnect, used a hack to get video from the Plex Media Server onto the Apple TV. A small Python program on the Mac intercepted DNS requests from the Movie Trailers app on the Apple TV and instead returned a custom XML feed that delivered a list of media and movie streams to the device.

Now, however, Apple has closed the loophole. Previously, the Trailers app used regular HTTP requests and the PlexConnect app intercepted those requests. Now, the Trailers app uses HTTPS and it is likely impossible for the Plex programmers to overcome it.

Plex CTO Elan Feingold told MacRumors that the company was "saddened to hear that PlexConnect stopped working" and that "we can only hope that in the future Apple decides to release an SDK for the ATV". "The level of interest in the project was quite high."
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Edit 3: Some very clever people here, watching in awe. Thank you all
 
 
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Developer Posts Fix for PlexConnect Client for Apple TV
Wednesday August 28, 2013 5:17 am PDT by James Cull
After the latest update to Apple TV disabled the functionality of the popular PlexConnectplugin, which allows Plex to run on non-jailbroken devices, developer Paul Kehrer has posted a detailed tutorial on his personal blog providing instructions on how to fix the issue. 

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The instructions, although somewhat technical, are fairly easy to follow. Users will require a copy of Apple Configurator (which is currently only available on OS X at the moment) and a micro-USB cable in order to connect their Apple TV to their Mac. 

The fix is only intended to be temporary, and it may be disabled in future Apple TV updates. Yesterday, Plex Chief Technology Officer Elan Feingold told MacRumors that the company was "saddened to hear that PlexConnect stopped working" and that "we can only hope that in the future Apple decides to release an SDK for the ATV", citing that interest in the project was "high".
 
 

Best Answer

  • marknealmarkneal Posts: 23Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    Answer ✓

    I went out and bought a micro USB connector today and followed http://langui.sh/2013/08/27/appletv-ssl-plexconnect/

    Used a Mac with Apple Configurator Method for installing profile on two Apple TV 3's

    Then I updated PlexConnect on my Windows 8 x64 system with the trailers.pem from the Mac as instructed

    Only complication was the "certfile = ./assets/certificates/trailers.pem" needed changing to "certfile = C:\PlexConnect-master\assets\certificates\trailers.pem" to get the path right for Win 8

    Note that the slashes point backwards for Win and forwards for Mac

    Fantastic work by talented folk, thanks!

    This thread is long enough now and I agree with Gh05t that it should split off for people struggling with particular combos

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  • markuswarrenmarkuswarren Posts: 179Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Is it actually a new firmware, or is it just pushing out new channels, ala what they did last week with the iTunes Music Festival app / channel?

  • marknealmarkneal Posts: 23Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I'm on 5.3 (6105) and the VEVO icon has turned up but not the Disney Channel, Disney XD, the Weather Channel, or the Smithsonian

    Don't think the update has installed automatically, but not sure on the version numbers

  • markuswarrenmarkuswarren Posts: 179Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    Where are you located? It could be down to geo-location, for example, the Hulu app only appears for US regions, so perhaps Disney XD is the same.

  • marknealmarkneal Posts: 23Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    markuswarren wrote on August 27 2013, 3:41 PM: »

    Is it actually a new firmware, or is it just pushing out new channels, ala what they did last week with the iTunes Music Festival app / channel?

    good question

    I am getting "The update was not successful" when checking "Update Software"

    Maybe PlexConnect blocks updates when plumbed through its DNS gateway to prevent auto update and blocking by Apple?

  • marknealmarkneal Posts: 23Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    markuswarren wrote on August 27 2013, 3:46 PM: »

    Where are you located? It could be down to geo-location, for example, the Hulu app only appears for US regions, so perhaps Disney XD is the same.

    I'm UK, so you make a good point

    What's your "Apple TV Software" version

  • markuswarrenmarkuswarren Posts: 179Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I'm not at home right now, so cannot check, but I'm on whatever the latest is / was. I will check later tonight and figure out what is happening. My guess is by that time we will know if they have changed anything in the trailers app.

  • roidyroidy Posts: 784Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    It isn't a new firmware, apple just pushed out some new channels to the atv. In the US you get Disney, Disney XD, The Weather Channel, Smithsonian and vevo. In the UK you only get vevo the rest are geo-locked and wont appear.

  • StoffezStoffez Posts: 515Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    i Can confirm that i have both VEVO, and both Disney apps on my homescreen.. And the PlexConnect still works!!! i am on Unblock us in sweden :)

    ps. they where pushed out i am still on version 5.3  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

  • markuswarrenmarkuswarren Posts: 179Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    roidy wrote on August 27 2013, 4:15 PM: »

    It isn't a new firmware, apple just pushed out some new channels to the atv. In the US you get Disney, Disney XD, The Weather Channel, Smithsonian and vevo. In the UK you only get vevo the rest are geo-locked and wont appear.

    Thanks for the confirmation it's not new firmware, just a push of channels.

  • Wildcat_1Wildcat_1 Posts: 152Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I am seeing Trailers Is Unavailable even when I just click on the ATV Trailers icon. Seen this happen over the past few weeks since updating so need to do some more digging

  • RobertZRobertZ Posts: 94Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I thought plexconnect was holding back updates?

  • institute11institute11 Posts: 1,455Members ✭✭
    edited August 2013
    Re: Disney channels. I am getting tired of all these apps being tied to having an existing cable account.
  • baabaa Posts: 3,954Members, Plex Pass, Forum Moderator Forum Mod
    RobertZ wrote on August 27 2013, 5:29 PM: »

    I thought plexconnect was holding back updates?

    iOS updates, yes.

    But aTV still pulls in its main page content whenever connected to the internet.

  • ChristophorusChristophorus Posts: 66Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I still find it amazing that companies focus so much on the US. Most of the channel additions are useless to anyone outside the US. Why sell a product if you're not going to add those features?

    PlexConnect fixes a lot of the aTV problems.

  • pickthenimppickthenimp Posts: 115Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I am not sure markneal's question was ever answered.  I have been "ignoring" the aTV update for months now in fear of breaking PlexConnect.  Is it always safe to update?

  • baabaa Posts: 3,954Members, Plex Pass, Forum Moderator Forum Mod

    >>Is it always safe to update?

    No.

    But even "not to update" might not be enough to keep it running...

  • Wildcat_1Wildcat_1 Posts: 152Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass

    I downgraded back to 5.3 (from b4) and see trailers work when on its default settings (i.e. being able to watch trailers) but when I point this to the DNS of my mac mini running PlexConnect I just get the trailers unavailable. I have 2 x PMS on my LAN so even killed GDM and pathed it manually to 1 of them but still seeing this issue. Anyone else running into this trailer issue now even on 5.3 ?

  • baabaa Posts: 3,954Members, Plex Pass, Forum Moderator Forum Mod
    edited August 2013

    Yeah... me!?!

    Just rebooted the aTV and now it doesn't seem to trigger PlexConnect's WebServer any more...

    Not sure what else has changed, though.

  • Plex MainPlex Main Posts: 203Members, Plex Pass Plex Pass
    Game over, for now
  • baabaa Posts: 3,954Members, Plex Pass, Forum Moderator Forum Mod

    Don't say that...

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