# Bug Report: (Slightly) Improper title sorting

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [November 23, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132 "2017-11-23T17:32:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![mgpaulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@mgpaulus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/mgpaulus)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/1 "2017-11-23T17:32:18Z")

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I was looking through my movie list, and noticed a slightly improper title sorting problem. Under english title sorting rules, a leading “A”, “An”, “The” is ignored. However, plex does not seem to honor this rule. I have a title list that goes like this:

.  
.  
.  
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles  
Terminator: Genisys  
The Fantastic Four  
The Pink Panther  
Thor  
Thor: The Dark World  
.  
.  
.

I am on version 3.23.1 running under a docker container on a Plex server.

Just wanted to report this and see if it would get fixed sometime. Or perhaps give us an option to ignore leading articles or not??

Thanks,

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/2 "2017-11-23T18:43:22Z")

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> @mgpaulus said:  
> I was looking through my movie list, and noticed a slightly improper title sorting problem. Under english title sorting rules, a leading “A”, “An”, “The” is ignored. However, plex does not seem to honor this rule. I have a title list that goes like this:  
> Just wanted to report this and see if it would get fixed sometime. Or perhaps give us an option to ignore leading articles or not??

That’s exactly what is being done by default.  
Curious that it doesn’t work for you.

How do you access your “movie list”?  
Do you use the default Plex client in the web browser? Or something else? If so, what?

‘Edit’ one of the movies where the title starts with `A` or `The`  
What is in the input field ‘Sorting Title’?

 ![](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/uploads/default/original/3X/5/1/517e2061a8fcb9c24b23e1cc6759ec2c1f618dff.png)

see also [https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201105343-Advanced-Hidden-Server-Settings](https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201105343-Advanced-Hidden-Server-Settings)  
“ArticleStrings”

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**Author:** ![mgpaulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@mgpaulus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/mgpaulus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/3 "2017-11-28T01:02:58Z")

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I so hate it when I ask stupid questions that I should know the answer to. I’ve seen that “Sort Title” box before, but it never registered into my brain, hence the stupid question. Thanks for the pointer to allow me to fix my stuff.

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**Author:** ![Elijah\_Baley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elijah_baley/32/10336_2.png) [@Elijah\_Baley](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Elijah_Baley)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/4 "2017-11-28T01:58:34Z")

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Sometimes, but rarely, Plex sticks the “The” in the sort title field. I’ve noticed it with the old movie “The Devil Bat” and a few others.  
I have noticed that the number of screw ups of that sort have decreased in later installs but it still happens from time to time.

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**Author:** ![jungwirth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3e96dc/32.png) [@jungwirth](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jungwirth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/5 "2017-11-28T04:09:31Z")

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I’ve just dug through the Server Advanced settings through the web interface - I would have sworn previously there was a tick box option somewhere to enable/disable including such ‘article’ words from the sort order, but now it’s not there.  
Mind playing tricks on me.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/peter_w/32/6556_2.png) [@Peter\_W](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Peter_W)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/6 "2017-11-28T07:10:57Z")

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[https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201105343-Advanced-Hidden-Server-Settings](https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201105343-Advanced-Hidden-Server-Settings)

`ArticleStrings	string	comma-separated list of words considered to be grammatical articles that are removed in sort title	the, das, der, a, an, el, la`

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/bug-report-slightly-improper-title-sorting/215132/7 "2020-01-08T00:10:42Z")

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