# Custom sorting in collections not working **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussions\ **Tags:** server-windows\ **Created:** [March 27, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168 "2022-03-27T21:11:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/1 "2022-03-27T21:11:18Z")
Hi, I’m wondering if anyone has figured out a work around, or if anyone know if there is a fix coming soon? I’m creating a custom list in one of my collections, but as soon as I’ve gone out, and I go back in, the custom order is randomly messed up, with some movie titles appearing in different spots. I’ve re-ordered them about a dozen times now, and every time I go back in, it’s all changed. ---
**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/2 "2022-03-27T21:54:19Z")
What version of PMS do you have installed on your setup? IIRC, this was supposed to be fixed with PMS 1.25.7.5604 > [@Plex Media Server](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-media-server/30447/490): > > Plex Media Server 1.25.7.5604 is now available to Plex Pass users in the Beta update channel. NEW: (Security) Certain critical server-management requests are now logged regardless of the configured log level (#13394) (Security) Downgrading the server’s log level now requires a PMS restart (#13393) (Security) Preroll video files now must have a recognized video file extension (#13397) (Security) When possible, request logs now include the name of the device associated with the auth token (#133… ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/3 "2022-03-27T22:38:04Z")
Yes, that the version I have, 1.25.7.5604. ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/4 "2022-03-27T23:05:28Z")
Actually, just updated to version 1.25.8.5663. I’ll give it another go, and see if it’s fixed in this update. ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/5 "2022-03-28T01:52:53Z")
Yeah, it’s still doing it. Reordered them, closed it up, came back a little while later and everything has moved again. ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/6 "2022-04-04T02:01:30Z")
Any ideas if a fix for this is happening? ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/7 "2022-04-04T02:06:19Z")
I must ask, how are you change or arranging the collections. What procedure? ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/8 "2022-04-04T11:22:46Z")
I just use the 3 little dots at the top of the movie poster, and move the titles that way. ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/9 "2022-04-04T11:44:35Z")
This one, Vertical Ellipsis at bottom Right of Title poster, edit filters? ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 9.37.46 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/f/c/1/fc1c96fd8581438aa6e5dacde005a01a7d7563ce.jpeg) If so, it seems you can save all sorts of orders, by adding another filter. ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 9.45.46 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/1/a/4/1a442761ae2a2ccbddaa6c1208437df58b84f77f.jpeg) Then select order, can be Ascending or Descending ![Screen Shot 2022-04-05 at 12.26.47 am](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/2/d/b/2dbd919f21f6b8dca4418a27859b6f901e05fbdc.jpeg) Then save. ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 9.48.55 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/c/9/f/c9fe864daf96e28f3f5c3701f65f27b079eddf05.jpeg) This is only Available on Smart Collections ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/10 "2022-04-04T12:02:06Z")
No, I’ve never used that method, but I’ll try it after work today, to see if it works. I’ve been using the option to drag titles, it’s 3 lines (sorry, not dots) in the centre top of movie posters. ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/11 "2022-04-04T12:37:03Z")
What client are we talking about? Three lines is a Hamburger menu ≡ , never seen one of those on a Title poster. Edit tool, Vertical Ellipsis, Radio Button, Play button. Yes seen all of these ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 10.29.22 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/8/6/1/861d8e90a8d8fb3d29dbf4a187f77288abea7c38.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/12 "2022-04-04T12:41:05Z")
Those 3-lines (≡) are only available on regular „non-smart“ collections. The icon will appear if you hover over an item inside such a collection at the top-center of the poster and allow you to drag them around (establishing a custom order). ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/13 "2022-04-04T12:59:41Z")
I stand corrected ≡ Hamburger Menu is indeed on a regular Collection item Poster. ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 10.58.03 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/8/b/6/8b607157845fc41ea53fe1a6ac7ae9a542f652be.jpeg) Thanks for pointing that out Tom, never messed with Regular Collections. The grand daddy of Regular collections ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 11.03.53 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/7/c/1/7c120e70ed2c99f44a4b62809da4b7fe24fdcd21.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bingbongboyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bingbongboyo/32/241850_2.png) [@Bingbongboyo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Bingbongboyo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/14 "2022-04-04T13:26:41Z")
Yes, thanks for that, as I was getting a bit lost in how to respond! Haha! The James Bond Collection is a good example. I’ve got the movies, but then I’ve also got some TV movies, such as Spymaker and Golden Eye. I’ve put them in the collection AFTER the collection of official movies. Come back the next day, and it’s re-ordered them back into chronological order. I have another collection of cult movies, but that resets itself into a seemingly random order! ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/15 "2022-04-04T13:32:02Z")
I would build a Smart Collection and manually add the extra Titles. Example: ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 11.32.46 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/4/b/5/4b544fcead99c2ec810da2c0310461b1eacd3fc4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/16 "2022-04-04T13:36:35Z")
There’s really only two ways of ordering collections I’m aware of: ### Smart Collections Set the order while editing a collection’s filter criteria. ### Regular Collections Edit the collection and set the sort order in its `Advanced` tab (alphabetic → by sort title, by release date, custom) Manually re-arranging items in a regular collection should automatically apply a custom order. However there’s been some issues with that in recent releases (1.25.7 was supposed to fix those but I’ve seen a number of posts where users are still having trouble). # SE56’s approach of creating a smart collection based on some tag will give you the extended sorting options of a smart collection while being able to manually decide what’s scope for that collection (not depending on other metadata). Though… keep in mind there’s a number of differences between smart and regular collections when it comes to how they’re displayed in your library. ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/17 "2022-04-04T13:46:35Z")
Thanks Tom, you can also rank Smart or Regular Collections by using the Sort Field to have them appear were you like. ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 11.43.30 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/b/d/0/bd048b54a4996468e8e2c2acc649e1e3a403e2ec.jpeg) Or like my good friend JuiceWSA ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 11.45.42 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/a/c/f/acfc23e1dcc9752033a5e6dbf44fed0a4a2388f5.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 11.43.50 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/0/a/b/0ab4c6546587ef0c2107cd3170235c72fa1955b1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/18 "2022-04-04T13:47:41Z")
true… but that’s sorting collections (smart or regular) within your library, not their content 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SE56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/se56/32/222425_2.png) [@SE56](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SE56)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/19 "2022-04-04T13:48:22Z")
Just filling in the gaps, Tom. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/custom-sorting-in-collections-not-working/784168/20 "2022-07-03T13:48:53Z")
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