# Forced subs overriding user default

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975>\
**Category:** Plex Media Server\
**Tags:** server-windows\
**Created:** [June 14, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975 "2025-06-14T11:22:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![shaunbe2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@shaunbe2](https://forums.plex.tv/u/shaunbe2)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975/1 "2025-06-14T11:22:01Z")

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For years now I have had my English subtitles enabled by default and every time it chooses forced subs over full subs. Is there a way to stop this?

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**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975/2 "2025-06-14T11:48:45Z")

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What’s your specific audio and subtitle language preferences? Maybe you can share a screenshot…

Are your subtitles tagged and recognized properly as full / forced ones?

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**Author:** ![shaunbe2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@shaunbe2](https://forums.plex.tv/u/shaunbe2)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975/3 "2025-06-14T12:02:59Z")

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My Audio and Subtitle settings:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/f/0/a/f0a03b81a441c335f7da0e05be4538e47ce2bfd0.jpeg)

An example of a show I am yet to watch (so untampered) that is defaulting to forced:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/1/2/6/126a27a0ca8fa00f960fbc384d03a4aecedadd14.png)

The actual files:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/d/e/0/de02965b8ad4cfe459423cc0d7009092fd1685da.png)

I usually don’t put “FULL” but it was a test to see if that would change anything… it didn’t

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**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975/5 "2025-06-14T15:51:25Z")

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Those settings and files look ok.  
From what I remember, Plex‘s automatic language selection for subtitles isn’t currently properly distinguishing between full and forced subtitles if `always on` is selected.

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**Author:** ![shaunbe2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@shaunbe2](https://forums.plex.tv/u/shaunbe2)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975/6 "2025-06-15T14:39:43Z")

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Thanks for the help, now I know its not just me 😀

Looks like this is a bug then. Would you happen to know (or any Plex staff seeing this) if this is a known bug?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/forced-subs-overriding-user-default/922975/7 "2025-09-13T14:39:51Z")

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