# Hard Knocks (2001) TVDB airing order not pulling metadata **URL:** \ **Category:** Metadata & Adding Files\ **Tags:** server-windows\ **Created:** [November 29, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390 "2024-11-29T21:03:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fletcherc21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b487fb/32.png) [@Fletcherc21](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Fletcherc21)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/1 "2024-11-29T21:03:52Z")
Server Version#: 1.41.2.9200 Player Version#: Windows 1.105.1.257-3bc35ab9 \ Hard Knocks (2001) is not pulling any metadata for seasons 17-23 (possibly earlier too, those are the only seasons I have tried) when set to TVDB Airing order. It will pull metadata from TMDB, but because TMDB has split the spin-offs into separate shows, TMDB only goes through season 19. In the plex agent all of the TMDB series of Hard Knocks and the TVDB series all are consolidated into one entry. So the TVDB order is the only way to include the 4 seasons that TMDB split into separate series, but it won’t import the metadata from TVDB. [https://thetvdb.com/series/hard-knocks-2001](https://thetvdb.com/series/hard-knocks-2001) ---
**Author:** ![basile123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@basile123](https://forums.plex.tv/u/basile123)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/2 "2024-12-04T23:21:34Z")
i have the same problem. i didn’t find a solution so that hard knocks has correct data or season ordering. the metadata is all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![stepchap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@stepchap](https://forums.plex.tv/u/stepchap)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/3 "2024-12-04T23:46:54Z")
Having same issue and can confirm it doesn’t work for any other the earlier seasons like 1-6 either. Matches when I switch to TVDB as the agent but then I have the warning about needing to upgrade the library and switch to the plex agent that does not work… ---
**Author:** ![ThomasGebetsberger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b3f665/32.png) [@ThomasGebetsberger](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasGebetsberger)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/4 "2024-12-05T10:44:56Z")
I have the same issue and hard knocks in season won’t show up… ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/5 "2024-12-05T17:41:38Z")
I opened a ticket at TVDb to get this cleaned up. Someone had also added hard knocks in season as a separate show on TVDb and it looks like plex was matching that as the main hard knocks series so only pulling metadata for the first 4 seasons. They deleted the two duplicate series (someone also added the Bears season as a separate series) so hopefully its now just a matter of the updates making there way down to the plex database. ---
**Author:** ![SulkyVirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@SulkyVirus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SulkyVirus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/6 "2024-12-05T19:50:55Z")
I have this same issue. Also the newly released season of Hardknocks In Season with the AFC North is not in the grouping and my scanner picks it up as season 01 instead of season 24 which is what I have my folder structure labeled. ---
**Author:** ![YouBetterChill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e5b9ba/32.png) [@YouBetterChill](https://forums.plex.tv/u/YouBetterChill)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/7 "2024-12-06T14:40:48Z")
Having the same exact problem, still no fix ☹ ---
**Author:** ![abbaZaba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/abbazaba/32/3370_2.png) [@abbaZaba](https://forums.plex.tv/u/abbaZaba)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/8 "2024-12-09T18:14:03Z")
I am having the same problem. Please help us fix this ---
**Author:** ![dboz87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@dboz87](https://forums.plex.tv/u/dboz87)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/9 "2024-12-11T13:34:09Z")
Having the same problem. ---
**Author:** ![Marcbacca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@Marcbacca](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Marcbacca)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/10 "2024-12-11T15:32:53Z")
Still not working … can confirm, it’s messed. ---
**Author:** ![ryanjerskine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9a140/32.png) [@ryanjerskine](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ryanjerskine)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/11 "2025-01-02T10:41:33Z")
Still not working for me either. Can’t even select TVDB as the sort order even though it will match from the TVDB ID. ---
**Author:** ![Marcbacca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@Marcbacca](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Marcbacca)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/12 "2025-01-06T02:07:56Z")
Plex… maybe let us use thetvdb as an agent without the legacy warning all the time. This would actually be the solution to an issue like this … we have no configuration options with the Plex agent anymore, and it’s clearly reliant on an incorrect source. This still isn’t fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Fletcherc21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b487fb/32.png) [@Fletcherc21](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Fletcherc21)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/13 "2025-01-21T01:36:37Z")
Bumping this again in the hopes of getting TVDB episode ordering added back for this show. There is only 1 TVDB series and it is already linked in the Plex Series agent, so it should be a simple fix. ---
**Author:** ![Fletcherc21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b487fb/32.png) [@Fletcherc21](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Fletcherc21)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/14 "2025-02-13T17:50:57Z")
Periodic bump. The TVDB series is the only one that even has all the episodes as an option since TMDB has it split into 3 shows that Plex merged back into 1. Just give us the TVDB episode ordering option. ---
**Author:** ![Marcbacca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@Marcbacca](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Marcbacca)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/15 "2025-03-06T11:53:10Z")
Bump … again … this really needs to get fixed. Hopefully tvdb will eventually get to this… still a total mess. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/16 "2025-03-13T03:18:49Z")
It’s plex, not TVDB. TVDB has it correct and has for a while now. ---
**Author:** ![fbwf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@fbwf](https://forums.plex.tv/u/fbwf)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/17 "2025-04-24T20:02:05Z")
Has there been any word on allowing tvdb matching? ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/18 "2025-05-30T02:04:35Z")
Bumping again ---
**Author:** ![thomson\_c1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@thomson\_c1](https://forums.plex.tv/u/thomson_c1)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/19 "2025-07-04T13:13:35Z")
Bumperino ---
**Author:** ![SulkyVirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@SulkyVirus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/SulkyVirus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390/20 "2025-07-29T19:59:56Z")
Bumping – please someone spend a bit of time doing what we gotta to get this fixed. It’s driving me bonkers! [Next page](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-2001-tvdb-airing-order-not-pulling-metadata/897390.md?page=2)