# Hard Knocks metadata incorrect **URL:** \ **Category:** Metadata & Adding Files\ **Tags:** server-windows, library-management\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892 "2024-12-04T19:42:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/1 "2024-12-04T19:42:33Z")
For Hard Knocks (2001), even when using fix match with the exact TVDB ID it is pulling metadata for “Hard Knocks In Season” which has a different TVDB ID and only has four seasons, leaving 20+ seasons and over 100 episodes of Hard Knocks as unmatched. Is it just a matter of TVDB removing the duplicate series or does something need to be fixed on the watch.plex database? ---
**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/2 "2024-12-04T22:09:09Z")
Looks like there might be some mix-up on Plex’s backend. When searching the show(s) on watch.plex.tv, it’ll find an entry “Hard Knocks: In Season” as the show from 2001 – but even that page won’t load. Maybe some confusion when some TMDB user recently added “Hard Knocks: In Season” as an alternative title for “Hard Knocks” (2001)… let’s see. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/3 "2024-12-04T22:49:18Z")
Thanks. I have put in a ticket with TVDB to get theirs cleaned up if that helps. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/5 "2024-12-05T17:38:16Z")
It’s cleaned up on TVDB now, should just be a matter of those changes matriculating down to plex in a couple days hopefully. ---
**Author:** ![Marcbacca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@Marcbacca](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Marcbacca)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/6 "2024-12-11T15:32:14Z")
This still hasn’t updated in Plex yet … still totally messed up. Is there anything else that can be done? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/7 "2024-12-15T04:15:54Z")
Do you know anyway to reach out and have this fix on the plex side? It’s still not matching with the correct series and now it shows the TVDB-Airing episode order as “unavailable”. ---
**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/8 "2024-12-15T12:10:02Z")
> [@NattieBoompo](#): > > Do you know anyway to reach out and have this fix on the plex side? You already did. Though, I don’t know the status of a fix/correction. ---
**Author:** ![dbirch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f19dbf/32.png) [@dbirch](https://forums.plex.tv/u/dbirch)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/9 "2024-12-15T15:14:37Z")
@ChuckPa Can you take a look at this metadata issue? ---
**Author:** ![BigWheel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bigwheel/32/78783_2.png) [@BigWheel](https://forums.plex.tv/u/BigWheel)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/10 "2024-12-16T21:13:49Z")
The metadata team already knows about it when @tom80H reported it. @ChuckPa can’t do anything to speed it up. it is a weird show with all sorts of issues because every source has it different info. Some like TVDB combining two shows into one. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/11 "2024-12-17T14:15:32Z")
To be clear tho TVDB has it correct. They aren’t combining two shows into one, TMDB is splitting one show into multiple. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/12 "2024-12-28T04:55:00Z")
Any updates? It’s still jacked. ---
**Author:** ![Marcbacca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@Marcbacca](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Marcbacca)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/13 "2025-01-06T02:06:32Z")
I’d love an update or a fix somehow from thetvdb … this is stupid… come on now. ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/14 "2025-03-13T03:18:30Z")
Bump, still broken ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/15 "2025-04-05T17:01:32Z")
Periodic bump ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/16 "2025-04-05T17:02:28Z")
Any word here? Again for clarity it is correct on the tvdb ---
**Author:** ![Fyb3roptik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/fyb3roptik/32/106780_2.png) [@Fyb3roptik](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Fyb3roptik)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/17 "2025-04-07T15:42:55Z")
Nothing needing a bump here, its working as expected. Its 1 show not 2 ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/18 "2025-04-07T19:40:32Z")
No, it should be one show (like it is on TVDB). Plex is only allowing metadata from TMDB which has it split up into three different shows, and even that isn’t pulling correctly. All they need to do is allow us to manually set episode ordering to TVDB but it’s not available for this series. ---
**Author:** ![Fyb3roptik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/fyb3roptik/32/106780_2.png) [@Fyb3roptik](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Fyb3roptik)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/19 "2025-04-07T19:51:20Z")
You can change it to use TVDB ---
**Author:** ![NattieBoompo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f07891/32.png) [@NattieBoompo](https://forums.plex.tv/u/NattieBoompo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/20 "2025-04-07T19:59:15Z")
No, you can’t. That’s what this whole thread is about lol ---
**Author:** ![fbwf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@fbwf](https://forums.plex.tv/u/fbwf)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892/21 "2025-04-24T20:01:19Z")
Any word on allowing tvdb matching? [Next page](https://forums.plex.tv/t/hard-knocks-metadata-incorrect/897892.md?page=2)