# I don't understand why

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**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [November 9, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635 "2021-11-09T21:26:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![flgoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@flgoose](https://forums.plex.tv/u/flgoose)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/1 "2021-11-09T21:26:39Z")

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ok i have 90 days fiance in its own directory. I also have 90days fiance pillow talk in its own separate directory. also all the other 90 shows in the same way. file names are the show title for example 90 fiance s01e01 and 90 days fiance pillow talk s01e01. Yet for some reason I’ve yet to discover, plex like to put all pillow talk under same icon regardless of the show they belong to or the directory they belong to. any one have a way to correct this?

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**Author:** ![pl\_5309](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pl\_5309](https://forums.plex.tv/u/pl_5309)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/2 "2021-11-09T21:29:06Z")

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Show the directory listing. TV is very specific.

> **[Naming and Organizing Your TV Show Files | Plex Support](https://support.plex.tv/articles/naming-and-organizing-your-tv-show-files/)**
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> The scanners and metadata agents used by Plex will work best when your major types of content are separated from...

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**Author:** ![flgoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@flgoose](https://forums.plex.tv/u/flgoose)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/3 "2021-11-09T21:37:41Z")

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Yes i’ve read that but i still can’t figure it out. It used to work fine awhile back but than after an update it started doing this. I’ve been using plex for many years and never had a problem with naming of the shows. so i know i follow the nomenclature correctly. or maybe not in this case.

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**Author:** ![pl\_5309](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pl\_5309](https://forums.plex.tv/u/pl_5309)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/4 "2021-11-09T21:42:24Z")

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They updated the Movie and TV scanner, looking up the show on TMDB (where Plex looks first) it is named **Pillow Talk (2019)**. So the directory would be something like

```auto
TV\Pillow Talk (2019)\Season 01\After The Dust Settles S01E01.mkv

```

Copied too much removed the second Pillow talk.

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**Author:** ![flgoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@flgoose](https://forums.plex.tv/u/flgoose)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/5 "2021-11-09T21:46:09Z")

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i checked TVDB and i saw that they classified al the different pillow talk under the same heading as pillow talk with all the different aliases. That kind of sucks as we wanted to keep the separate as they really should be. I haven’t really found a work around to this.

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**Author:** ![Divideby0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/74df32/32.png) [@Divideby0](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Divideby0)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/6 "2021-11-09T21:48:15Z")

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When plex looks at the files for the first time, it has to determine what show it is. It looks at the folder name and basically does a search on [TheTVDB.com](http://TheTVDB.com) for that show. If the folder matches closely to what it finds on TheTVDB, it decides THAT is the show.

Then, it digs into the subfolders within, and starts looking for files with SxxExx format in their name. Whatever it thinks the show is, it picks any file numbered like S01E01 in their name and decides that is season 01 episode 01.

If Plex sees two “90 days Fiance” folders (or closely-named shows) in your TV shows folder, it might think they are both the same show, and thinks you might just have two copies of the show. Despite naming the individual files “90 days fiance” it doesn’t matter, since the folder itself got matched to a different show.

Basically, the best success is to set the folder itself to match - as closely as you can - to the display name on TVDB. In particular, [90 Day Fiance (2014)](https://thetvdb.com/series/90-day-fiance) and [90 Day Pillow Talk (2019)](https://thetvdb.com/series/pillow-talk-tlc). Use those names as the folders and you are likely to have success with Plex matching them automatically and separately. It’s now a good idea to include the release year of the show as well. It’s hard to find the year of the show in the page itself for a show, so do a search, the search results will have the year it came out. ([Like this search.](https://thetvdb.com/search?menu%5Btype%5D=series&query=90%20days))

Make sure to do the [Plex Dance](https://forums.plex.tv/t/the-plex-dance/197064). Move the folders somewhere that Plex is not looking at. Change the names of the folders. Re-scan the TV Show Library. Empty Trash. Move the newly-renamed folders back into the location. Scan. They should show up separately.

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**Author:** ![pl\_5309](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pl\_5309](https://forums.plex.tv/u/pl_5309)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/7 "2021-11-09T21:52:44Z")

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For stubborn cases you can use the TVDB number in brackets on the show directory level, for the Pillow talk it is Pillow Talk (2019){tvdb-363739}.

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**Author:** ![dane22](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/dane22/32/4389_2.png) [@dane22](https://forums.plex.tv/u/dane22)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/8 "2021-11-09T21:57:33Z")

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> [@flgoose](#):
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> 90 fiance

Let your Shows/episodes naming follow what’s on [themoviedb](https://www.themoviedb.org/)

Your shows:

> **[90 Day Fiancé](https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/61575-90-day-fianc)**
>
> Getting through customs is just the beginning. With just 90 days to wed on a fiancé visa, follow international couples as they attempt to overcome cultural barriers and family drama while in search of true love that knows no borders.

> **[90 Day Fiancé: Pillow Talk](https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/94009-90-day-fiance-pillow-talk)**
>
> Previous cast members of 90 Day Fiancé and its spin-off shows react to new episodes of these shows.

Name like this

- Root of TV Library
  - 90 Day Fiance (2014) {tmdb-61575}
    - Season 01
      - New Couples New Journeys -S01E01.\<File.ext\>

And note in above, that we for Show directory has both year as well as tmdb ID in there to assist the Plex Agent

And as others has already said, after renaming, do the [Plex Dance](https://forums.plex.tv/t/the-plex-dance/197064)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/i-dont-understand-why/756635/9 "2022-02-07T21:58:14Z")

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