# Indirect connection on home network

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292>\
**Category:** Plex Players\
**Tags:** player-windows\
**Created:** [March 31, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292 "2023-03-31T17:22:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/1 "2023-03-31T17:22:06Z")

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Hi there , i have 3 pc’s in the home all on a wired connections . Only the one pc with the server on it shows a Nearby connection. The other 2 show indirect! , which greatly degrades the quality. How do i change some settings so they are also nearby? Thankyou so much in advance… Dixski

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**Author:** ![BigWheel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bigwheel/32/78783_2.png) [@BigWheel](https://forums.plex.tv/u/BigWheel)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/2 "2023-03-31T18:00:10Z")

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> [@Dixski](#):
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> The other 2 show indirect! , which greatly degrades the quality. How do i change some settings so they are also nearby?

Do they have firewalls enabled possibly blocking ports maybe?

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**Author:** ![JaysPlex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jaysplex/32/281767_2.png) [@JaysPlex](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JaysPlex)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/3 "2023-03-31T19:46:07Z")

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Go into the Network and Internet settings

Choose ethernet

Double click on your network name

Make sure it’s set to private, not public

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/4 "2023-03-31T21:48:07Z")

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Thankyou , it is set to private though.

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/5 "2023-03-31T21:51:11Z")

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Thankyou for the reply , firewall is enabled but plex media server and plex DLNA are on the allowed list.

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/6 "2023-04-02T14:18:35Z")

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They are all private , i seem to be noticing that the option to fall back to insecure connections is no longer a thing. Both machines not hosting the server are now saying “unreachable”… !

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/7 "2023-04-02T14:44:12Z")

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restarted server , cleared browsing history now the 2 machines on the home network are indirect again.

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/8 "2023-04-03T11:48:27Z")

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[https://support.plex.tv/articles/206225077-how-to-use-secure-server-connections/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/206225077-how-to-use-secure-server-connections/)  
“Why doesn’t it work?”

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/9 "2023-04-03T15:52:35Z")

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Ive no idea , i cleared all the browser history from the web apps on both p.c’s now they are both indirect again.  
I use powerline adapters to connect them to the network to the router, dont hink that would make any difference.

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**Author:** ![BigWheel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bigwheel/32/78783_2.png) [@BigWheel](https://forums.plex.tv/u/BigWheel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/10 "2023-04-03T15:54:06Z")

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I think he means there is a " Why Isn’t It Working?" section in that article he linked that you should read

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/11 "2023-04-03T15:54:42Z")

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Surely if it was the firewall , they would not connect at all . The server is set to secure connections preferred , smart tv’s in the home and away from the home can connect fine to my server.

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**Author:** ![BigWheel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bigwheel/32/78783_2.png) [@BigWheel](https://forums.plex.tv/u/BigWheel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/12 "2023-04-03T15:55:27Z")

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> [@Dixski](#):
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> Surely if it was the firewall , they would not connect at all .

relay uses standard internet ports like 80 that are always open

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/13 "2023-04-03T15:56:05Z")

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> [@Dixski](#):
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> I use powerline adapters to connect them to the network to the router, dont hink that would make any difference.

These _can_ make a difference. There are some which create a different subnet and/or perform network address translation (NAT).

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/14 "2023-04-03T15:58:17Z")

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Thats interesting , i have a wireless adapter, i will attach that to the usb and disable the ethernet connection later on one of the p.c’s and will post back later. Thankyou

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/15 "2023-04-03T16:35:29Z")

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Ethernet disabled , wireless adapter used , still indirect

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/16 "2023-04-03T16:48:19Z")

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The following relates to the machine hosting the server. When i open plex using the icon on the taskbar the server shows Nearby, but when i open it via the plex.tv link it shows indirect, hope that is clear (and this is on the machine that hosts the server)

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/17 "2023-04-03T16:54:34Z")

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> [@Dixski](#):
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> the icon on the taskbar the server shows Nearby

that is opening the browser to 127.0.0.1:32400/web which is itself

app.plex.tv requires a secure connection and checks it before trying to connect, if it cannot then it is one of the reasons it will try [plex relay](https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-server-through-relay/) which is indirect.

the link @OttoKerner posted earlier has some common issues why it may not like DNSrebinding

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/18 "2023-04-03T16:58:23Z")

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I will have a good read through the article. Whats DNS rebinding? thanks

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**Author:** ![Dixski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dixski](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Dixski)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/19 "2023-04-03T17:13:14Z")

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I guess the next step is to see if my router has rebinding or my isp uses it then?

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**Author:** ![BigWheel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/bigwheel/32/78783_2.png) [@BigWheel](https://forums.plex.tv/u/BigWheel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/indirect-connection-on-home-network/836292/20 "2023-04-03T17:16:25Z")

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I would first just try to change DNS like the article mentions

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