# New Standard? Allow Insecure Connections **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussions\ **Created:** [November 28, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847 "2021-11-28T18:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![spotity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@spotity](https://forums.plex.tv/u/spotity)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/1 "2021-11-28T18:49:59Z")
About 2 months ago, all my smart TV’s in my home stopped working with Plex (Plex is hosted outside the network) The only way to make them work was to use insecure connections, otherwise the server would just show unavailable. All TV’s are 2019 or newer - WebOS 5 and Samsung Tizen. Is it normal to now just allow insecure connections? Is this how everybody that has a server outside of their network now accesses Plex? ---
**Author:** ![Djantalu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Djantalu](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Djantalu)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/2 "2021-11-28T19:17:47Z")
it’s due to the end of certificate and renew of it. If your TV can be updated do it. if no update its your only way. You can also use an other player like nvidia shield or Xbox, Playstation… ---
**Author:** ![FordGuy61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/22d042/32.png) [@FordGuy61](https://forums.plex.tv/u/FordGuy61)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/3 "2021-11-28T21:22:41Z")
> [@Important information about Plex for smart TVs after September 30, 2021](https://forums.plex.tv/t/important-information-about-plex-for-smart-tvs-after-september-30-2021/746506): > > UPDATE: It appears that all Tizen-based Samsung sets are likely affected by the cert change and will thus need the app and server configured to allow insecure connections. On September 30, 2021, some older smart TVs (some Samsung, LG, Vizio, Hisense, and other unsupported TV platforms) will no longer be able to use secure connections to communicate with Plex Media Servers. These devices are no longer supported by their manufacturers, and won’t be receiving an update needed to continue making se… ---
**Author:** ![spotity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@spotity](https://forums.plex.tv/u/spotity)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/4 "2021-11-29T04:51:28Z")
Thanks, its surprising though as these are current models, and not old models. I’ve updated both and still need insecure set to allow in order for them to work. What do you do for guest users as they don’t have the option to set insecure connections? Only the main user does. ---
**Author:** ![Blkbyrd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/blkbyrd/32/251758_2.png) [@Blkbyrd](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Blkbyrd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/5 "2021-11-29T17:42:10Z")
> [@spotity](#): > > What do you do for guest users as they don’t have the option to set insecure connections? Only the main user does. You set the server **Settings → Network → Secure Connections** to **Preferred** After that have them go to the app settings and **Settings → Advanced → Allow Insecure Connections** to **Always**. Honestly though I won’t even let people use my server unless they have a client that can seamlessly access it without any BS. I just purchased my mother a Chromecast with Google TV over Black Friday so she can access my server without any issue. > [@spotity](#): > > Thanks, its surprising though as these are current models, and not old models. I’ve updated both and still need insecure set to allow in order for them to work. Also like was suggested earlier and will continue to be suggested, purchasing a better client is a great idea to avoid these issues in the future. Buying a $50 Chromecast with Google TV or even better a $200 Nvidia Shield (stay away from the tube) will give you a MUCH better experience at a much lower frustration level then constantly trying to deal with the idiocy that TV manufacturers seem to consistently employ. If your really serious about Plex, do yourself a favor and get better clients. I have a $3K TV that is less then a year old and although it works mostly fine for Plex, I still made the decision to get a Shield and avoid the BS that will inevitably befall that TV’s “smart” features over time. I bought the TV for its picture, not its garbage smart features. If you decide you want to go that route I can help you pick out a better client. ---
**Author:** ![power](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/power/32/247472_2.png) [@power](https://forums.plex.tv/u/power)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/6 "2021-11-29T23:34:49Z")
i don’t consider this a standard, rather a workaround - IMHO the correct way to go about this is to replace the device, so either a plug in player such as roku, chromecast, etc or a new tv. When a device or operating system goes out of mainstream support working around security by turning it off is just straight up bad practice. I also consider any apps built into TV’s (unless it’s something like Android TV) to be a convenience factor for the masses and not a serious option for most people. You can expect those apps to be out-dated quickly most times. ---
**Author:** ![Blkbyrd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/blkbyrd/32/251758_2.png) [@Blkbyrd](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Blkbyrd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/7 "2021-11-29T23:52:22Z")
> [@power](#): > > (unless it’s something like Android TV) As an owner of an 85" X900H I would like to say that even AndroidTV is not necessarily good. It’s WAY better then other TV’s, but it still has some massive shortcomings when compared to a good plug-in streamer. I’d say it’s maybe on par with the Chromecast with Google TV. Okay, rant over 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/new-standard-allow-insecure-connections/760847/8 "2022-02-27T23:52:48Z")
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