# Odd showing in music library

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [October 15, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555 "2018-10-15T21:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/1 "2018-10-15T21:35:59Z")

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I just noticed something strange, I couldn’t understand that I didn’t have my Robbie Williams CD’s not showing up, so I tried searching, and in the search he appears, but not under artists. I hope Plex haven’t added quality control, and RW has fallen under the bar of being an artist? 🙂

 ![odd_showing](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/7/1/714b6a5cabb02f7199e885c1f26f5e86a7d39c9a.jpeg)  
As you can see, it shows in the search that I have 13 albums with him, but looking in the artist list, he is now shown.

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/2 "2018-10-15T22:55:41Z")

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Enter the artist from your search results.  
Then ‘edit’ the artist.  
Look what it says in the ‘sort title’ field.  
I have a hunch it may say ‘Williams, Robin’, so he appears under ‘W’.

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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/3 "2018-10-16T07:08:54Z")

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Ahaaa, you are absolutely right, and that also goes for the danish band Tøsedrengene.  
It was apparently sorted after T0sedrengene, which is completely bonkers.  
I’ve corrected the Tøsedrengene to Toesedrengene (not sure if it has problems with the danish letters), as that is at least understandable.

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/4 "2018-10-16T09:05:17Z")

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You might want to inspect the embedded meta tags of your files.  
There is actually a meta tag for ‘artist sort title’. Apparently the file of this particular artist which got added first into Plex has this weird sort title stored in it.

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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/5 "2018-10-16T09:21:32Z")

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Hmm, my preferred is mp3tag (2.90a), but that doesn’t show a “artist sort title”, so what tool would you recommend for that?

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**Author:** ![maiade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/maiade/32/216160_2.png) [@maiade](https://forums.plex.tv/u/maiade)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/6 "2018-10-16T09:41:50Z")

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mp3tag will show artistsort (not artist sort title) if you set it up to do so or you can right click and use the extended tags option to display all tags in the file. The tag you want to look at is albumartistsort in any case as Plex prefers albumartist and to artist. The actual underlying tag name will be dependent on the file type you are using as mp3, m4a/mp4 and flac all use different tagging standards.

(Album) Artist sort is in my view not some weird thing but actually very useful as it put things in what I consider to be the correct order. But then I shelve my books by authors surname.

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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/7 "2018-10-16T09:52:47Z")

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I think the ‘weird’ refers to using the number 0 instead of the letter Ø.  
I don’t see the ‘t0sedrengene’ tag anywhere in their files. I wonder if mp3tag has cleaned it out?

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**Author:** ![maiade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/maiade/32/216160_2.png) [@maiade](https://forums.plex.tv/u/maiade)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/8 "2018-10-16T15:31:47Z")

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mp3tag doesn’t delete tags unless you tell it to so I doubt that got rid of it. I guess it’s possible that Plex is adding the sort tag you found to deal with multiple languages but that seems unlikely and a poor way to do it.

One problem I find with Plex is once it has a bit of metadata it is hard to get rid of it. You could try adding an albumartistsort and seeing if Plex takes what you have set it to.  
Unless it has been updated recently then this doesn’t work for flac files which is one reason why I ended up writing my own version of the local media plugin.

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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/9 "2018-10-26T06:38:24Z")

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I’ve tried going through a lot of artists and albums now, it’s definetely plex doing this.  
As soon as it sees an ø, it is changed to 0 in the sorting field. Darn that’s a lot of work cleaning that mess up.

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/10 "2018-10-26T10:41:44Z")

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Does this affect both capital `Ø` and lower case `ø`?  
Or just one of those?

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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/11 "2018-10-26T11:42:27Z")

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Yes, it seems so. I’ve corrected so many by now that I’m having trouble finding new items to look at 🙂

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/12 "2018-10-26T11:47:00Z")

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> [@KFribert](#):
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> Yes, it seems so.

Which is it? only one or both?

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**Author:** ![KFribert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e5b9ba/32.png) [@KFribert](https://forums.plex.tv/u/KFribert)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/13 "2018-10-26T13:13:34Z")

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Both as I can see it.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/14 "2018-10-26T13:14:07Z")

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Thanks! I will create an error report.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/odd-showing-in-music-library/320555/16 "2019-01-24T13:34:34Z")

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