# 'Original Quality' optimize drops framerate

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Tags:** media-optimizer\
**Created:** [December 28, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761 "2018-12-28T02:24:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![s\_o\_m\_e\_g\_u\_y](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@s\_o\_m\_e\_g\_u\_y](https://forums.plex.tv/u/s_o_m_e_g_u_y)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761/1 "2018-12-28T02:24:21Z")

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I’m trying to get my Plex server set up, and was playing with optimizing content, and noticed that 720P @ 60fps content is being converted to 30fps, and despite having the same ballpark bitrate, the quality isn’t so hot… it seems less sharp, and obviously not as smooth. 1080i 30fps is untouched.

For background, it’s going after .WTV files that have been converted by Win8.1 WMC, from various sources. In this case it was recorded by a HDHomeRun. I do have MCEBuddy (which works great!), but something as simple as clicking and optimizing content would be really convenient to do remotely on a onesie-twosie basis as needed, if I’m not around to kick off a conversion.

Here’s an example of the media info of the two:

\*\*\*\*\* Original Media\*\*\*\*\*

Video Resolution 720p  
Duration 2:09:57  
Bitrate 9732 kbps  
Width 1280  
Height 720  
Aspect Ratio 1.78  
Container WTV  
Video Frame Rate 60p  
Video Profile main  
Title Original  
Part

Duration 2:09:57  
File UFC Fight Night- Lee vs. Iaquinta 2\_FS1HD\_2018\_12\_18\_03\_55\_00.wtv  
Size 8.83 GB  
Container WTV  
Has Thumbnail 1  
Indexes sd  
Video Profile main  
Codec MPEG2VIDEO  
Bitrate 9156 kbps  
Bit Depth 8  
Chroma Location left  
Chroma Subsampling 4:2:0  
Closed Captions 1  
Color Range tv  
Frame Rate 59.94 fps  
Height 720  
Level 4  
Profile main  
Ref Frames 1  
Scan Type progressive  
Stream Identifier 48  
Width 1280  
Display Title 720p (MPEG2VIDEO)  
Codec AC3  
Channels 6  
Bitrate 384 kbps  
Language English  
Audio Channel Layout 5.1(side)  
Sampling Rate 48000 Hz  
Stream Identifier 46  
Display Title English (AC3 5.1)  
Codec AC3  
Channels 2  
Bitrate 192 kbps  
Language Español  
Audio Channel Layout stereo  
Sampling Rate 48000 Hz  
Stream Identifier 47  
Display Title Español (AC3 Stereo)  
Codec EIA\_608  
Stream Identifier 42  
Display Title Unknown (EIA\_608)  
Codec EIA\_608  
Embedded In Video 1  
Stream Identifier 48  
Display Title Unknown (EIA\_608)

_ **Optimized Media** _

Video Resolution 720p  
Duration 2:09:57  
Bitrate 9432 kbps  
Width 1280  
Height 720  
Aspect Ratio 1.78  
Container MP4  
Video Frame Rate NTSC  
Web Optimized Yes  
Proxy Type 42  
Has 64bit Offsets true  
Target Original Quality  
Target Tag I D 3  
Video Profile high  
Title Original Quality  
Part

Duration 2:09:57  
File UFC Fight Night- Lee vs. Iaquinta 2\_FS1HD\_2018\_12\_18\_03\_55\_00 (2018).mp4  
Size 8.56 GB  
Container MP4  
Has 64bit Offsets true  
Indexes sd  
Web Optimized Yes  
Video Profile high  
Codec H264  
Bitrate 8851 kbps  
Bit Depth 8  
Chroma Location left  
Chroma Subsampling 4:2:0  
Closed Captions 1  
Frame Rate 30 fps  
Height 720  
Level 4.0  
Profile high  
Ref Frames 9  
Stream Identifier 1  
Width 1280  
Display Title 720p (H.264)  
Codec AC3  
Channels 6  
Bitrate 384 kbps  
Language English  
Audio Channel Layout 5.1(side)  
Sampling Rate 48000 Hz  
Stream Identifier 2  
Display Title English (AC3 5.1)  
Codec AC3  
Channels 2  
Bitrate 192 kbps  
Language Español  
Audio Channel Layout stereo  
Sampling Rate 48000 Hz  
Stream Identifier 3  
Display Title Español (AC3 Stereo)  
Codec EIA\_608  
Embedded In Video 1  
Stream Identifier 1  
Display Title Unknown (EIA\_608)  
Codec SRT  
Format SRT  
Display Title Unknown (SRT External)

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761/2 "2018-12-28T11:52:33Z")

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The drop in frame rate to max. 30fps is intended to maximize compatibility with older player devices.

Every transcoding causes quality reduction.  
How much, however, is depending on several variables.  
Go to  
Settings - Server - Transcoder - ‘Show Advanced’  
and set “Background transcoding x264 preset” as low as possible. I recommend ‘Slow’.  
Delete the current optimized version and trigger optimization again. Re-evaluate the quality.

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**Author:** ![s\_o\_m\_e\_g\_u\_y](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@s\_o\_m\_e\_g\_u\_y](https://forums.plex.tv/u/s_o_m_e_g_u_y)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761/3 "2018-12-28T23:31:52Z")

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Ah, makes sense. I’ve got it set to ‘Very slow’, to try and get the most out of it.

Is there a setting to override the drop in frame rate, or perhaps configure a custom preset? The platform I’m on is primarily the Plex Media Player PC app, and Roku, so it’s not of the utmost importance, unless I’m remote and want to try and get better performance out of a poor connection.

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761/4 "2018-12-29T00:34:15Z")

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> [@s\_o\_m\_e\_g\_u\_y](#):
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> Is there a setting to override the drop in frame rate, or perhaps configure a custom preset?

No, there isn’t.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/original-quality-optimize-drops-framerate/353761/5 "2019-03-29T00:47:00Z")

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