# PHT/PMS Genres

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [June 5, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230 "2015-06-05T16:26:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![jwaltrip4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jwaltrip4/32/11399_2.png) [@jwaltrip4](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jwaltrip4)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/1 "2015-06-05T16:26:35Z")

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Premium Music library set up in PMS

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Local Media Assets listed at top of each agent setting in PMS

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All tracks have genres set up the way I like them

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PMS scans the albums just fine.

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In PMS:

Artists - genres seem to be coming from Plex Premium music settings.&nbsp; this is just fine as My

tagged in settings are per track/album

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Albums - Genres are coming from my tags in the actual media (MP3) files

- All is good so far....

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However, in PHT, both artist and Albums are using the Premium music genres, not my tagged ones....&nbsp;&nbsp; Why doesn't PHT match PMS?

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**Author:** ![jwaltrip4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jwaltrip4/32/11399_2.png) [@jwaltrip4](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jwaltrip4)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/2 "2015-06-06T15:19:43Z")

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any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![jwaltrip4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jwaltrip4/32/11399_2.png) [@jwaltrip4](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jwaltrip4)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/3 "2015-06-08T19:46:15Z")

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crickets?

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/4 "2015-06-08T23:04:29Z")

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Anybody?

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/5 "2015-06-08T23:18:28Z")

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PHT shows by default Artists. Therefore genre filter only shows genres which are tagged on artists.

But the internal genre tag of a file applies to an album. If you want to filter by album genre, you must set the list to album first.

It is the same as in the web app.

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**Author:** ![jwaltrip4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jwaltrip4/32/11399_2.png) [@jwaltrip4](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jwaltrip4)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/6 "2015-06-09T14:47:13Z")

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I have done that.

Here is PMS, Artists.&nbsp; this is what I expect

![post-264664-0-63817300-1433860806.jpg|423x500](upload://aytAx8jh6QENaqRUzUFYuJ3PKa9.jpg)

Here is PMS, Album.&nbsp; This is what I expect.

![post-264664-0-62687700-1433860798.jpg|423x500](upload://1x308ZvFjDI3OZpRRrZfRMetfyS.jpg)

Here is Plex for WIndows (Windows 8.1).&nbsp; This is what I would expect (Artist Genres)

![post-264664-0-54330100-1433861117.jpg|690x390](upload://hMgaKFkd5YAzRCdnbqx5FPEqQ6b.jpg)

Here is where it goes off the rails.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is album.&nbsp; Same thing happens in PHT.&nbsp; It is **NOT** picking up the album genres shown in the PMS print screen

![post-264664-0-89647400-1433861123.jpg|690x390](upload://ufQeeGpDLwwSoB0ZwUhrQrbxEQa.jpg)

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/7 "2015-06-09T15:47:00Z")

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> I have done that.
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> Here is where it goes off the rails.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is album.&nbsp; Same thing happens in PHT.&nbsp; It is **NOT** picking up the album genres shown in the PMS print screen
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> ![attachicon.gif](https://forums.plex.tv/public/style_images/plex/attachicon.gif)[Screen Shot 06-09-15 at 10.43 AM 001.JPG](https://forums.plex.tv/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=51119)

I have found that it displays both the Gracenote and the Album genres in PHT. So the list very long.

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**Author:** ![jwaltrip4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jwaltrip4/32/11399_2.png) [@jwaltrip4](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jwaltrip4)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/8 "2015-06-09T16:03:40Z")

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Sorry, no

I just checked.&nbsp; I have about 1/2 dozen genres that begin with "Ethnic"

they are not showing up.

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**Author:** ![jwaltrip4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jwaltrip4/32/11399_2.png) [@jwaltrip4](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jwaltrip4)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/9 "2015-06-09T16:05:51Z")

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By the way, I have "don't use genres from gracenote set in the agent.

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**Author:** ![gcoupe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/gcoupe/32/11125_2.png) [@gcoupe](https://forums.plex.tv/u/gcoupe)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/10 "2015-06-09T17:30:18Z")

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I'm seeing the same issue. The Web client, when displaying the Album view filtered by Genre, will use the genre list drawn from the embedded ID3 Genre tags. This is the correct behaviour.

However, both PHT and the Windows 8.1 app, even when set to display Albums filtered by Genre, will use what appears to be a list of genres drawn from the Artist metadata, instead of my embedded genre tags. This is not the correct behaviour.

In my opinion, this is clearly a bug, and an annoying one. Please can it be addressed.

The Web client, showing the correct Album genre list, drawn from my embedded ID3 tags:

![cg71fz5gxl73.png|690x403](upload://yUkQcMuKrsvtlBCclNrm7rPt9CR.png)

PHT, displaying Albums filtered by Genre, showing a completely different list of genres, drawn from who-knows-where:

![post-257623-0-81080100-1434712609.png|690x388](upload://bgPzwCTTpSXOv0bZpPFk5OB2LiL.png)

The Windows 8.1 app showing the same list of incorrect genres:

![3pxyylcczgot.png|690x460](upload://2XTLqkPyyMVsE7I20rm9JfnRRyH.png)

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/11 "2015-06-09T20:17:11Z")

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OK.. one person see this and you can call him an idiot (me).

2 people, and I think we have a bug....

Can someone a PLex verify this?

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/12 "2015-06-11T11:00:34Z")

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Any thoughts from anyone at plex?

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/13 "2015-06-14T18:36:56Z")

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Anything?

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/14 "2015-06-14T18:39:29Z")

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Jut a question here...&nbsp;&nbsp; I am a plex pass member....&nbsp;&nbsp;

I am not expecting a 24 hour fox on anything... or a 24 hour response.&nbsp; I am paying in the hopes that I can get some support.

Is there a part of this forum where I can bring up things like this and see them acknowledged?

This is either a bug, or a problem with how I have set things up.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/15 "2015-06-24T08:17:27Z")

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We are investigating this, it looks like the artist genre list is displayed instead of the album genre list.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/16 "2015-06-24T08:47:51Z")

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> We are investigating this, it looks like the artist genre list is displayed instead of the album genre list.

Thanks for this. And what should the behaviour be if we select "none" (don't use genres from Gracenote) in the Music library Advanced settings? Does that mean that we should not see any genres associated with artists, other than those we add manually to each artist?

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/17 "2015-06-25T07:02:54Z")

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> Thanks for this. And what should the behaviour be if we select "none" (don't use genres from Gracenote) in the Music library Advanced settings? Does that mean that we should not see any genres associated with artists, other than those we add manually to each artist?

Yes, I believe that would be the case.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/18 "2015-06-29T16:17:06Z")

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thanks for the replies....&nbsp;&nbsp; Any results?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/19 "2015-07-14T14:00:07Z")

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any thoughts anyone?

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230/20 "2015-07-14T14:05:25Z")

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> @gcoupe said:  
> Thanks for this. And what should the behaviour be if we select “none” (don’t use genres from Gracenote) in the Music library Advanced settings? Does that mean that we should not see any genres associated with artists, other than those we add manually to each artist?

the next version of PMS will contain a fix for the ‘None’ genres issue

[Next page](https://forums.plex.tv/t/pht-pms-genres/105230.md?page=2)
