# Plex Amp download options **URL:** \ **Category:** Plex Labs\ **Tags:** plexamp\ **Created:** [April 25, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386 "2020-04-25T09:06:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![funman300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@funman300](https://forums.plex.tv/u/funman300)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/1 "2020-04-25T09:06:39Z")
Server Version#: 1.19.1.2701 Player Version#: 3.0.1 I don’t get why Plex amp only lets me download 24hrs of a playlist or even why they wont add a way to download my entire library. This is such a good app and has so much potential, just a few things that could be improved. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/2 "2020-04-25T19:40:17Z")
Because the download system isn’t designed to download gazillions of tracks; it’s supposed to be quick, reliable and simple, but also powerful in that it lets you download all sorts of different things. The difference between that and a system which does that with someone’s giant library are massive 😅 ---
**Author:** ![MinkyPLEX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/minkyplex/32/184889_2.png) [@MinkyPLEX](https://forums.plex.tv/u/MinkyPLEX)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/3 "2020-04-26T09:26:17Z")
I agree with you comment about the numbers of tracks, however I have 5 tracks in a Playlist and when download on an IOS device, only 2 of the 5 download. I cannot see a reason for this. Your thoughts would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/4 "2020-04-26T17:39:12Z")
Hmm, can you delete it, download it, and then share the debug logs with me via DM? ---
**Author:** ![jrsorders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@jrsorders](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jrsorders)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/5 "2020-05-03T08:47:14Z")
> [@elan](#): > > Because the download system isn’t designed to download gazillions of tracks; it’s supposed to be quick, reliable and simple, but also powerful in that it lets you download all sorts of different things. So, am I correct that there is no function to sync selections (albums, tracks) for offline mode? If I need that (airline, etc), I need to use main Plex app? ---
**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/6 "2020-05-03T08:52:42Z")
You can download - albums - playlists - mixes - radios You can keep several of those downloaded on your device. So will you have your collection, in its entirety, available on your phone without internet connection? No. Will it have enough music to last through the longest flight? Yes, definitely. ---
**Author:** ![jrsorders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@jrsorders](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jrsorders)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/7 "2020-05-03T09:12:02Z")
> [@OttoKerner](#): > > Will it have enough music to last through the longest flight? Yes, definitely. If the limit is ~24 hrs of tracks…and I know what I want to listen to before the flight…that’s correct, I guess. It would, however, limit the number of selections vs what might be available on the regular app. ---
**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/8 "2020-05-03T09:54:35Z")
_Each_ of these downloaded items can reach 24 hours. So take mixes/radios of a few different moods or styles, some of your favorite albums and throw in one or two audio books and you should survive even the longest travel. ---
**Author:** ![funman300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@funman300](https://forums.plex.tv/u/funman300)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/9 "2020-05-03T10:10:40Z")
I guess the idea that many people have with a dedicated music app is they wanna use it like Spotify and download their library to listen to on the go. Doesn’t make sense to me why that’s not a thing but the app is still in beta so more work can be done. ---
**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/10 "2020-05-03T10:17:22Z")
How can you use Spotify without an internet connection? ---
**Author:** ![funman300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@funman300](https://forums.plex.tv/u/funman300)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/11 "2020-05-04T01:47:59Z")
If you pay for Spotify you can download your playlists/saved song. ---
**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/12 "2020-05-04T07:40:36Z")
Well, that’s hardly the full Spotify library. ---
**Author:** ![funman300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@funman300](https://forums.plex.tv/u/funman300)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/13 "2020-05-04T07:54:31Z")
True, I guess peoples Plex libraries can be a lot bigger then Spotify. I just want the option to choose ---
**Author:** ![queuecumber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/queuecumber/32/156335_2.png) [@queuecumber](https://forums.plex.tv/u/queuecumber)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/14 "2020-05-04T18:19:42Z")
Just to be clear, I understand this is beta software, but the feature to download more than 24h is in the works to be released eventually right? It’s not if it will be implemented it’s when? Because it should be my choice how much gets downloaded and we know it’s possible since the main Plex app handles it without issue. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/15 "2020-05-04T19:44:19Z")
> [@queuecumber](#): > > the feature to download more than 24h is in the works to be released eventually right? No. The download system isn’t designed to download entire libraries worth of music. ---
**Author:** ![queuecumber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/queuecumber/32/156335_2.png) [@queuecumber](https://forums.plex.tv/u/queuecumber)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/16 "2020-05-04T19:58:37Z")
What exactly is the technical limitation compared to the main Plex app? I’m not talking about downloading an entire library, I just want one playlist downloaded with ~6 days of music so it doesn’t use data which I pay for. However even if I was talking about downloading my entire library I don’t understand why your system would care especially when you have one on the main Plex app that works fine. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/17 "2020-05-04T20:09:15Z")
> [@queuecumber](#): > > What exactly is the technical limitation compared to the main Plex app? Totally different design, design goals, architecture, etc. ---
**Author:** ![queuecumber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/queuecumber/32/156335_2.png) [@queuecumber](https://forums.plex.tv/u/queuecumber)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/18 "2020-05-04T20:28:24Z")
Can you be more specific? E.g. who’s performance degrades, the apps, the server… is the performance bottleneck memory, disk, CPU? How did you compute 24h as the threshold beyond which things breakdown? Which design decision(s) that are different than those in the main plex app cause this behavior? I really want to understand the problem before I form a completed opinion on this app and I’m not a layman you can use technical terms. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/19 "2020-05-04T21:04:07Z")
Max (👋) , I’m not sure what else I can tell you besides what I have already. - The offline system _inside_ Plexamp wasn’t designed to scale to massive amount of tracks. It was designed to be fast, flexible and different (client-based) so we could download a whole number of things which aren’t possible in the main app (e.g. artist radios). - The main Plex app has a 100% different design (it embeds a version of the media server and relies on the server to manage the sync queue). You seem to have already completed a fairly strong opinion of the app, I’m not sure anything I can tell you here will change that, but happy to explain more. ---
**Author:** ![queuecumber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/queuecumber/32/156335_2.png) [@queuecumber](https://forums.plex.tv/u/queuecumber)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386/20 "2020-05-04T21:21:13Z")
Well I’m not trying to be argumentative but I asked some specific questions about the performance. Here’s a thought experiment: I’m limited to 24h per playlist. Let’s say I have 6 playlists and I downloaded 24h worth of music for all of them. Do I see the same performance degradation as though I had a single playlist which I downloaded 6 days worth of music for? If not why? If yes should there be a limitation there too? [Next page](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-amp-download-options/580386.md?page=2)