# Plex for Windows Transcoding When it shouldn't **URL:** \ **Category:** Plex Players\ **Tags:** player-windows\ **Created:** [January 30, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827 "2023-01-30T04:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/1 "2023-01-30T04:40:06Z")
Server Version#: 1.30.2.6563 Player Version#: 1.62.2.3451-fb8ac0ae So for w/e reason Plex for Windows app for me will randomly transcode my media down to SD rather then direct playing. And if i just close out of the player a few times it will go back to direct playing the same media. Here is a screen shot of me playing a media file that its transcoding down from 1080 \> SD [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177572787425116161/1068919539720523827/image.png](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177572787425116161/1068919539720523827/image.png) Then a few moments later after closing out of the app and relaunching it playing the same media file it direct plays it with no transcoding. [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177572787425116161/1068920271525916702/image.png](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177572787425116161/1068920271525916702/image.png) I’ve also attached my Plex for Windows log of the same thing happening with another media file. where I played an episode of SEE and it transcoded it from 1080 \> SD again. I’ve been wracking my brain on why this has been happening, any information would be helpful. PS: this only happens with Plex for windows, Plex HTPC works fine as well as all my Roku devices, they all direct play fine its just with the plex for windows app. I would use Plex HTPC but I like the Plex for windows interface better as when I’m watching something on my secondary monitor while I’m on my PC the mouse just works better on this interface. ---
**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/2 "2023-01-30T09:53:14Z")
Make sure that the network connection to the server is without interruptions while Plex for windows is running. Which means you must prevent - the server stopping and restarting - the workstation where the player is running going into sleep mode - the server going into sleep mode - the network adapters of both server and client going into sleep mode or enabling other means to save power (like switching their link speed) ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/3 "2023-01-30T14:49:48Z")
I can rule how the first 3 points as my server uptime right now is “Uptime 2 months 9 days 8 hours 52 minutes” The server is a docker being hosted on Unraid. Also both the server and client have NICs locked at 1.0 Gbps so I don’t think that last point is the problem either. I can do a fresh launch of the client and sometimes it will transcode down to SD and sometimes it will direct play so none of that makes sense. And if it does transcode I can just close out, relaunch multiple times until it direct plays. ---
**Author:** ![gbooker02](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/gbooker02/32/9726_2.png) [@gbooker02](https://forums.plex.tv/u/gbooker02)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/4 "2023-01-30T15:04:03Z")
The bandwidth is being restricted to 2Mbps. You should check the `Quality` section inside the settings. ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/5 "2023-01-30T15:18:05Z")
![Plex_MBdJIyi5kZ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/0/1/e/01e0232f6acfd236ee6ee6998a7c5dd3158c19b4.jpeg) Here is the quality section of the player, nothing i can see should be limited. ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/6 "2023-02-04T19:43:27Z")
This still seems to be an issue with the Plex for windows client. This can be reproduced time and time again but with no clear way to fix it. Here it is again, same media file but the Plex for windows client decides to transcode down to SD and the PLEX HTPC direct plays. ![chrome_FU6OdM886M](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/d/0/7/d072d6b23448d03f31bc6ed421e0a4e212dd41ac.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![zkaiser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/zkaiser/32/298677_2.png) [@zkaiser](https://forums.plex.tv/u/zkaiser)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/7 "2023-02-09T18:10:58Z")
I have this EXACT issue. I have _Maximum_ Video Quality selected as well. Same exact issues, My Plex will randomly start to refuse to direct play, and it will automatically transcode and I cannot change it. ![Plex_yDROOovbe9](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/d/2/a/d2aa7a9a7391e088b8d64cf4849e889917fd2efb.png) Nothing at all I do seems to resolve the issue. Like OP said, it will randomly just start working again. I have been personally dealing with this issue for _months_. Nothing at all fixes this. I have reinstalled PMS, Plex for Windows, cleared all %Appdata% in all relative folders. Cleared registry, reinstalled etc. Nothing makes it _NOT_ forcibly transcode other than just waiting. If I go into my PMS settings and _disable_ transcoding, everything just straight up fails to play. Saying either CPU has not enough power (I’m using an 8 core AMD 9590) ![Plex_U8KdFQZqy2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/5/7/2/572e0867c654a1667b6607c32bb3a3b9459d0233.png) or sometimes just giving me this (with transcode disabled) ![Plex_4WgbNKfvs9](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/8/6/a/86a2290f330ffe9d7eca7916582512e1f9364bf4.png) With all of this being said, as I type this I was able to get something to finally direct play, since last night of not being able to at all. ![Plex_EEFM3zKD35](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/7/d/f/7dfdaf22da2885bce97c4694b0498548977164e6.png) I did nothing this time whatsoever to combat this issue, it just randomly started working again. I guarantee it will happen at least 2-3 times the remainder of this week. ---
**Author:** ![amateur\_wizard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/amateur_wizard/32/122818_2.png) [@amateur\_wizard](https://forums.plex.tv/u/amateur_wizard)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/8 "2023-02-09T18:17:33Z")
> [@rex099](#): > > i just close out of the player a few times it will go back to direct Shot in the dark but you wouldn’t happen to have ‘Strict TLS’ enabled and Encryption set to ‘Required’ would you? ---
**Author:** ![zkaiser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/zkaiser/32/298677_2.png) [@zkaiser](https://forums.plex.tv/u/zkaiser)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/9 "2023-02-09T18:34:57Z")
Not OP, but I have Encryption set to ‘Preferred’ and do not have Strict TLS enabled. ---
**Author:** ![amateur\_wizard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/amateur_wizard/32/122818_2.png) [@amateur\_wizard](https://forums.plex.tv/u/amateur_wizard)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/10 "2023-02-09T18:41:14Z")
Understood. OP has the same network settings. Personally I disable Video Stream Transcoding, the error code that always comes up is ‘Not Enough CPU for conversion of this item’. I restart the app and carry on streaming. I’ve had my brother not remember what to do when this error comes up so for me that is the inconvenient part. I think it has some thing to do with the encryption keys and [Plex Relay](https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-server-through-relay/). If you restart the server, or use a device that hasn’t been used in a while this happens. It might also come up as and Indirect connection. Either way I’ve been dealing with this Playback Error for years and I don’t think there’s anything that can be done on the user side to fix it other than restart the application. ---
**Author:** ![anon18523487](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@anon18523487](https://forums.plex.tv/u/anon18523487)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/11 "2023-02-09T20:15:06Z")
Logs please. There is no way to tell what’s going on without logs. FYI - I can’t reproduce, which is why I need your logs. ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/12 "2023-02-09T23:00:48Z")
I have Secure connections set to preferred and Strict TLS configuration is disabled. ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/13 "2023-02-09T23:16:06Z")
For whatever reason it seems to be wanting to work at the moment so I cant provide anymore logs other then the one in the original post. @zkaiser maybe you have a log to provide? or @amateur_wizard I’m sure it will happen again over the next few days and ill be sure to try and grab a log then. ---
**Author:** ![amateur\_wizard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/amateur_wizard/32/122818_2.png) [@amateur\_wizard](https://forums.plex.tv/u/amateur_wizard)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/14 "2023-02-10T02:43:43Z")
When it occurs again do you want them as Debug Level Verbose, Enabled or Disabled? OP has logs uploaded. Line 1070 is where it finds the profile, line 1129 is where it starts talking about the stream. ---
**Author:** ![anon18523487](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@anon18523487](https://forums.plex.tv/u/anon18523487)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/15 "2023-02-10T20:03:37Z")
Always debug. Never verbose unless asked specifically by someone to turn it on. For the op, I’m not sure where those augmentations are coming from. I don’t see those in my logs. ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/16 "2023-02-10T21:34:40Z")
[Plex.log](https://forums.plex.tv/uploads/short-url/6aysj50an16k1RvEzOZIvi2Prak.log) (178.3 KB) ![Plex_YxXW77LfvJ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/2/a/e/2ae516b6617194e1d3d28221a3929362d78b2c3f.jpeg) ![chrome_PJ83tsA0k4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/a/e/5/ae56b6e38532ee892c53efdb106dbdde19e5bfe8.png) Here is a log with the screenshot of what is shown from the client end and what is shown from Tautulli. Here is another log with debug on from the same file ---
**Author:** ![zkaiser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/zkaiser/32/298677_2.png) [@zkaiser](https://forums.plex.tv/u/zkaiser)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/17 "2023-02-10T21:42:30Z")
Thank you @rex099 , of course I am unable to reproduce at the moment as well. Rest assured this _will_ happen to me again. When it does I will have my logs ready. ---
**Author:** ![zkaiser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/zkaiser/32/298677_2.png) [@zkaiser](https://forums.plex.tv/u/zkaiser)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/18 "2023-02-10T21:57:43Z")
Well that didn’t take long. ![msedge_rDJKurQbtH](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/5/b/1/5b10d6a243eb2c28d4bfa2eb76515699957c5bb2.png) ![Plex_yqNTafUeGi](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/3/9/e/39e7011e7208e9d99cb68184514317dc7d4c1501.png) [console.log](https://forums.plex.tv/uploads/short-url/rveA1i8gQ1YGqS3lJTH19ztkdE9.log) (200.6 KB) I tried to pull directly from the raw console as I did this to try to truncate what needs to be seen. EDIT: Rebooted Plex for Windows 5x and now can direct play: ![msedge_x4tAq3NUBf](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/6/5/c/65c0a4e4bc294fc94c96d55bb48056ea546492e5.png) ![Plex_aGtOtJzeq6](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/0/b/c/0bc5bcf046ee0ba59060fa6ebcca1d86f6b1424a.png) ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/19 "2023-02-11T00:50:28Z")
Here is 3 log files, The first two should be from when the client decided to transcode then the last one should be from when it decided to direct play after the first 2 attempts. ---
**Author:** ![rex099](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rex099/32/93507_2.png) [@rex099](https://forums.plex.tv/u/rex099)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827/20 "2023-03-04T19:11:32Z")
Any luck on finding anything? If you need more logs I can provide, or if you want like specific chain of actions with logs I’m willing to provide anything. Its a super annoying issue cause it comes and goes. [Next page](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-for-windows-transcoding-when-it-shouldnt/828827.md?page=2)