# Plex Naming Issues

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391>\
**Category:** Plex Media Server\
**Tags:** library-management\
**Created:** [August 14, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391 "2022-08-14T01:44:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![dbirch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f19dbf/32.png) [@dbirch](https://forums.plex.tv/u/dbirch)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391/1 "2022-08-14T01:44:55Z")

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FYI the plex metadata for Jeopardy! is less than ideal.

The TVDB [https://thetvdb.com/series/jeopardy/seasons/official/2021](https://thetvdb.com/series/jeopardy/seasons/official/2021) take S2021E43 is named `Jeopardy! - 2021x46 - Laura Portwood-Stacer, Justin Yaeger, Matt Wierman` While Plex uses the episode title: `Show #8351`

I already default to the tvdb for ordering, can we please have a way to prefer one source over the other as a whole? Im getting tired of seeing issues with data drift between the TVDB and TMDB.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix501](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/phoenix501/32/288433_2.png) [@Phoenix501](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Phoenix501)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391/2 "2022-08-14T03:40:54Z")

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I understand your frustration having these two databases as sources.

You said you’ve set your library to use TVDB ordering. Does switching off the MovieDB in your agent settings as well change anything?

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**Author:** ![FordGuy61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/22d042/32.png) [@FordGuy61](https://forums.plex.tv/u/FordGuy61)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391/3 "2022-08-14T04:45:30Z")

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I do not have a good solution, but I think I know what is happening.

1. The Plex TV Series agent/scanner supports the following episode ordering formats:  
a) The Movie Database (Aired)  
b) The TVDB (Aired)  
c) The TVDB (DVD)  
d) The TVDB (Absolute)

2. Plex does not support any other TVDB orderings. This means any ordering not named Aired, DVD, or Absolute will be ignored.

3. The orderings for Jeopardy at The TVDB are:  
a) Year Order  
b) Official Order

4. Plex cannot match Jeopardy via TheTVDB since there is no Aired/DVD/Absolute ordering.

5. Therefore, Plex falls back to The Movie Database, which has only one ordering, Aired, and uses it to match the show.

6. The episodes at The Movie Database are named #8350, #8351, etc., so that is how they are displayed in Plex.

  

As mentioned above, I’ve no solid solutions to offer.

You might try opening a case at TheTVDB and ask if they will rename Year order to Aired order, or duplicate Year as Aired. I’ve no idea if they do something like this. Tell them you’re adding the show to your Plex server and need an ordering named “Aired.”

If the files are MP4s and have the correct embedded metadata, you can tell Plex to prefer the metadata over the normal matching process. However, this is done on a per library basis, so it could impact how other shows are listed (if a mp4 had bad metadata).

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**Author:** ![JaysPlex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jaysplex/32/281767_2.png) [@JaysPlex](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JaysPlex)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391/5 "2022-08-14T05:15:42Z")

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I have Frontline episodes that are ordered the same way with the year but they show those as “aired order”  
 ![Frontline](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/a/5/a/a5ab7b0d9ed5772e6f76546f67fef31042b546fd.png)

Yet Jeopardy isn’t. That says Year order like you pointed out FordGuy61  
 ![Jeopardy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/5/9/0/5908a56ce55274e6cce3afabd50e713fc27c4dc3.png)

The odd thing is on Jeopardy TVDB there is a little notation down at the bottom of the seasons that says, Useable as “Aired Order” in API-connected systems. That to me, means it should work if he selected the TVDB aired order

![Screenshot (2152)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/2/5/a/25a01765e220cdeb6a81565949ad1c1680d78b7c.png)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-naming-issues/804391/6 "2022-11-12T05:15:58Z")

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