# Plex/Nine Database

**URL:** https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453
**Category:** Dev/API Corner
**Tags:** other-dev
**Created:** [January 20, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453 "2010-01-20T16:15:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![vdubeau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/vdubeau/32/619_2.png) [@vdubeau](https://forums.plex.tv/u/vdubeau)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/201 "2010-05-04T02:40:02Z")

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> I'd like to compare it more to the move from Windows to the Mac. Things are easier, life is better.

  
  
I like that. Before I switched to the mac I was using Linux. That made life better. Mac made it easier and better :D

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### Author: ![radar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/radar/32/332_2.png) [@radar](https://forums.plex.tv/u/radar)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2010, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/202 "2010-05-04T07:28:09Z")

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> Can we try to stay on topic, please? This thread's for discussion of the new library database in 0.9, not scripts that update the old library in 0.8 :)

  
You're completely right. Let get back to Alexandria. However, I would like to thank Mr. Chip before. :)

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### Author: ![mwillis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/mwillis/32/622_2.png) [@mwillis](https://forums.plex.tv/u/mwillis)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/203 "2010-05-05T08:41:16Z")

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> You are completely right! From my perspective, it's hard to tear myself away from coding to do the communicating, but it is important.  
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> It's actually on my list to post a screencast of the new library in action (as you can see from my last comment on the blog post. I wanted to write up more details, but let's face it, a screencast is worth a thousand words :)  
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> The good news is that we're really happy with progress and will be making a public alpha available in a matter of weeks, not months.

  
  
  
Any news on a possible release date for the public alpha, I understand you are trying to make it a stable release but I am very eager to try this new version out.  
  
thanks again for all you efforts.

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### Author: ![Nemesis7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c67d28/32.png) [@Nemesis7](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Nemesis7)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/204 "2010-05-05T12:36:58Z")

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It’s been 3,5 months now since this thread started… the sheriff of Plexville is killing us! 🙂

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### Author: ![GSX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/gsx/32/951_2.png) [@GSX](https://forums.plex.tv/u/GSX)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/205 "2010-05-05T21:42:53Z")

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A while ago it was said that in Plex 9 there would be the option to have TV shows stored as full DVD rips in the TS format instead of having each episode ripped separately. I was wondering how that is coming along.   
  
  
  
Can you elaborate on how well it is working? I know with full DVD rips we will not have control over individual episodes, but that doesn’t really concern me. I am however wondering about how the info is being scraped? Is having TV shows organized in such a way compatible with TVdb? If keeping TV shows in this format is not compatible with TVdb can wee at our own data? Would the TV rips still be organized by seasons? Any screen shots that you can share?  
  
  
  
I much prefer to keep the full DVD functionality of my rips so I always rip them in TS format. For movies this is fine since they work great in Plex. Unfortunately TV shows don’t work as well for me. I have to watch them from the videos section which is definitely not as cool since there is no data to go with the shows.  
  
  
  
Any info would be appreciated. 🙂   
  
  
  
Keep up the good work.

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### Author: ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/206 "2010-05-05T22:52:00Z")

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I think I remember saying that Plex/Nine would be able to support those sorts of things (DVD/TV Shows). It definitely won’t be fully “baked” in the first public release. There are lots of edge cases and different formats and we’re shooting for supporting the most common ones first.  
  
  
  
As for an update, we’re working on the fifth private alpha at the moment, and I’m hoping that we’ll take that plus bugfixes and make that the first public release. Thanks for your patience 🙂

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### Author: ![GSX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/gsx/32/951_2.png) [@GSX](https://forums.plex.tv/u/GSX)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/207 "2010-05-05T23:08:06Z")

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> I think I remember saying that Plex/Nine would be able to support those sorts of things (DVD/TV Shows). It definitely won't be fully "baked" in the first public release. There are lots of edge cases and different formats and we're shooting for supporting the most common ones first.

  
  
Thanks for the reply. That is definitely the feature I am most looking forward to with Plex 9.

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### Author: ![PowerTowerPro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/powertowerpro/32/248_2.png) [@PowerTowerPro](https://forums.plex.tv/u/PowerTowerPro)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/208 "2010-05-10T03:46:44Z")

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> Thanks for the reply. That is definitely the feature I am most looking forward to with Plex 9.

  
  
I second that!

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### Author: ![Healeydave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/healeydave/32/1010_2.png) [@Healeydave](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Healeydave)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/209 "2010-05-11T14:53:30Z")

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> I'd like to compare it more to the move from Windows to the Mac. Things are easier, life is better.

  
  
  
Heheh, I like that analogy, so true too.  
  
I purposely refrained from checking this thread for a couple of weeks after the estimated public alpha schedule message was left, I'm guessing with a hint of optimism its close now?  
You know what its like, if your waiting for something and check every day, it seems to take twice as long :-)

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### Author: ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/210 "2010-05-11T18:44:25Z")

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Yeah, I totally know what it’s like 🙂 Yeah, we’re finishing up work on the next alpha, which, if all goes well, will be (modulo bug-fixes) our first public release.

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### Author: ![Healeydave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/healeydave/32/1010_2.png) [@Healeydave](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Healeydave)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/211 "2010-05-12T18:29:35Z")

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> Yeah, I totally know what it's like :) Yeah, we're finishing up work on the next alpha, which, if all goes well, will be (modulo bug-fixes) our first public release.

  
  
Fantastic, I imagine this will be the last question I have before its released (there's optimism :-) , will the "/Library" directory structure allow for us to run Plex 0.90a along-side Plex 0.85 ?

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### Author: ![jam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jam/32/186050_2.png) [@jam](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jam)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/212 "2010-05-12T18:52:57Z")

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> will the "/Library" directory structure allow for us to run Plex 0.90a along-side Plex 0.85 ?

  
No, since the two versions both store their data in the same Application Support folders, and some of the components stored there have been updated for 0.9 (and are not backwards-compatible with 0.8 versions). You can, however, move/rename the "Plex" and "Plex Media Server" folders when you want to switch between versions.

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### Author: ![radar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/radar/32/332_2.png) [@radar](https://forums.plex.tv/u/radar)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/213 "2010-05-12T21:24:55Z")

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Do you know the Poisson process? Briefly, it states that waiting for a bus since a long time does not mean that the next one is arriving 😉

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> Fantastic, I imagine this will be the last question I have before its released (there's optimism :-) , will the "/Library" directory structure allow for us to run Plex 0.90a along-side Plex 0.85 ?

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### Author: ![RockStar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/rockstar/32/613_2.png) [@RockStar](https://forums.plex.tv/u/RockStar)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/214 "2010-05-19T22:16:55Z")

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> The good news is that we're really happy with progress and will be making a public alpha available in a matter of weeks, not months.

  
  
One month has passed. Any updates? A part two coming up on "the road to alexandria" maybe? Or even better, an actual release?

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### Author: ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/215 "2010-05-19T22:18:12Z")

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Would you settle for a screencast on the blog? [http://bit.ly/d8tudg](http://bit.ly/d8tudg)

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### Author: ![unisonruss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/unisonruss/32/546_2.png) [@unisonruss](https://forums.plex.tv/u/unisonruss)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/216 "2010-05-20T06:16:54Z")

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I am very impressed with the Media Manager - it really feels like a Mac application now, and not a division of XBMC. You guys are doing amazing work, and I cannot wait to get my hands on 9 and really dissect all the new features! It seems you guys are very innovative, and have thought up a lot of stuff… you have put in the work of a developer for Apple - I never would of thought this was a project just started for a side-project! You are making our lives easier with easy-to-use software, and I thank you for that 😃  
  
  
  
And now for my question: This is sort of off-topic, but I am wondering if hard drives on my Windows machines will be easily accessible in Plex on my Mini? My mini is my HTPC, but the rest of the computers in the house are Windows, so clearly they will not be running Plex. Judging from the video, you need the Plex Media Server running for your shares to appear on the home screen…will that be available for Windows as well, or will there be another way to share content from a Windows to the Mac?

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### Author: ![Winstano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/winstano/32/145881_2.png) [@Winstano](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Winstano)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/217 "2010-05-20T07:27:14Z")

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> And now for my question: This is sort of off-topic, but I am wondering if hard drives on my Windows machines will be easily accessible in Plex on my Mini? My mini is my HTPC, but the rest of the computers in the house are Windows, so clearly they will not be running Plex. Judging from the video, you need the Plex Media Server running for your shares to appear on the home screen…will that be available for Windows as well, or will there be another way to share content from a Windows to the Mac?

  
  
From my understanding (going off the Screencast, so probably not huge), it looks like this should be possible. Enable the relevant Windows folders to be shared via Bonjour, and add them as a source within Plex. (It seems that as long as you're connected to the drive you can drag and drop into the Media Manager?). Thinking about it, you should be able to do this in Plex 8!  
  
It seems that the Plex Media Server's new purpose is to share libraries across multiple mac HTPCs.

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### Author: ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/218 "2010-05-20T09:21:38Z")

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> And now for my question: This is sort of off-topic, but I am wondering if hard drives on my Windows machines will be easily accessible in Plex on my Mini? My mini is my HTPC, but the rest of the computers in the house are Windows, so clearly they will not be running Plex. Judging from the video, you need the Plex Media Server running for your shares to appear on the home screen...will that be available for Windows as well, or will there be another way to share content from a Windows to the Mac?

  
  
Russ, thanks for the kind words, we greatly appreciate them :) As winstano correctly points out, the Media Manager can easily pull in content from a NAS or a Windows machine or a Commodore 64 as long as the drive is mounted on the machine where the Media Server is running (i.e. via AFP/SMB).

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### Author: ![Nudgenudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nudgenudge](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Nudgenudge)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2010, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/219 "2010-05-20T09:58:53Z")

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> Russ, thanks for the kind words, we greatly appreciate them :) As winstano correctly points out, the Media Manager can easily pull in content from a NAS or a Windows machine or a Commodore 64 as long as the drive is mounted on the machine where the Media Server is running (i.e. via AFP/SMB).

  
C64 support? Now that's a feature we all wanted. :P   
And yes, seems too good to be true, Elan. Outstanding work!  
  
By the way, are scanners and media types "open"? As you already know, I made the Game Launcher plug-in for Plex 8, and if I can somehow add the games to the Media Manager (instead of scraping at every plug-in launch) with editable metadata, this would truly rock.

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### Author: ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-nine-database/3453/220 "2010-05-20T10:06:08Z")

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> By the way, are scanners and media types "open"? As you already know, I made the Game Launcher plug-in for Plex 8, and if I can somehow add the games to the Media Manager (instead of scraping at every plug-in launch) with editable metadata, this would truly rock.

  
  
The scanners and metadata agents are totally open, the former being simple Python code and the latter being a sophisticated evolution of the Plex Plug-ins you know and love.  
  
The Media Server does need some "training" on new type hierarchies, so it's not \*completely\* dynamic/extensible, this would be pretty hard (or at least not a 1.0 thing). But it's the next best thing. Right now we have a TV Show hierarchy, Movies, and a Music hierarchy. Games and Comics would be obvious possible next type hierarchies to consider.

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