# Plex or What?

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Tags:** server-mac, server-synology, apple-tv, player-mac\
**Created:** [March 26, 2023, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734 "2023-03-26T07:46:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7feea3/32.png) [@ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ebrinkworth_icloud_com)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/1 "2023-03-26T07:46:34Z")

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Plex or what?

**I have** :-

Mac mini (Server) late 2012

16GB RAM

**macOS Catalina 10.15.7**

**Synology NAS DS416** (4 off WD40EFRX-68N32N0) (RED) 4TB Drives

DSM Version DSM 7.1.1-42962 Update 4

**Contents mainly mp4 /m4v films**

**Ethernet Cat 6** (gigabit) running on an **Archer VR2800** (TP-Link) with 15 wired clients and 4 wireless clients through a

**TP-LINK 16-Port Gigabit Desktop Switch**

PLEX server runs on the Mac mini

Plex runs to an **AppleTV** (A1625 32bit) via the ethernet ( I have also tried WiFi)

**Issue** : Plex frequently acts as though it is decoding or “hanging” although (AFAIK) there are NO decodes being done.

I am certainly no tech wizard and I would dearly love to know why this occurs. Is it because of any bottleneck in the network, the AppleTV, slow drives or the old Mac Mini?

I am hoping to be able to upgrade to the 2023 M2 Mini/512K but is that really likely to fix this issue?

**LOGS?**

I have no logs for any of this and don’t know how to go about getting them - any suggestions please?

So many questions, So few answers!

Can anyone help please!/

Terry Brinkworth

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**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/2 "2023-03-26T09:41:05Z")

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> [@ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](#):
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> Is it because of any bottleneck in the network, the AppleTV, slow drives or the old Mac Mini?

Let’s start with having a closer look at the „Now Playing“ section of your server dashboard while streaming a video from your server on the Apple TV.

I’m primarily interested in two information:

1. is the stream considered `local`, `remote` or `indirect`?
2. are all tracks playing directly or are they being transcoded (if so, how)?

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![Exemplary screenshot from the "now playing" section](https://support.plex.tv/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/11/Screen-Shot-2018-12-18-at-5.23.55-PM.png)  
[https://support.plex.tv/articles/200871837-status-and-dashboard/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/200871837-status-and-dashboard/)

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**Author:** ![ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7feea3/32.png) [@ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ebrinkworth_icloud_com)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/3 "2023-03-26T12:53:31Z")

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It appears as “Local” and is running at about 3 Mbps and is running as “local” CPU is topping out at 100%?

TerryB

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**Author:** ![ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7feea3/32.png) [@ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ebrinkworth_icloud_com)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/4 "2023-03-26T13:24:50Z")

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BTW - I don’t know how this runs but I’m using “Plex for Apple TV” is that the correct mode?

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**Author:** ![Divideby0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/74df32/32.png) [@Divideby0](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Divideby0)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/5 "2023-03-26T14:45:40Z")

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Is it possible to get a screenshot of that dashboard that Tom80H showed you, then upload that to this forum? (drag n drop into the forum post)

You did not indicate if it was transcoding or not. A screenshot of the dashboard will instantly tell us what is up.

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**Author:** ![ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7feea3/32.png) [@ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ebrinkworth_icloud_com)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/6 "2023-03-27T06:28:41Z")

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Hello Helpful people - thank you for the insights.  
To give you some background - I’m now 80 and thankfully in possession of most of my faculties - but a bit more slow than hitherto!

FYI there is no decoding, I use Handbrake to perform that for producing the m4v files.  
Herewith some screenshots - same movie, still from ATV.

 ![Screenshot 2023-03-27 at 7.20.30 am](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/4/2/8/42806632765ff4ce55233fe00574d910a8fc7b4a.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot 2023-03-27 at 7.19.52 am](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/7/8/d/78db15ff61ae8a3dcbcae30f60fb45161baa21e5.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot 2023-03-27 at 7.19.33 am](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/6/0/2/602ef7a54e637acf682128e3d51d6f3a2a9f9422.jpeg)

TerryB

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**Author:** ![tom80H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tom80h/32/19753_2.png) [@tom80H](https://forums.plex.tv/u/tom80H)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/7 "2023-03-27T08:21:36Z")

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You’re right. The video is directly playing with no transcoding on your server. The other graphs also show that the PMS app is barely busy… that being said it seems Handbrake is giving the machine itself quite some work.

Do you see the same interruption on the Apple TV if you pause the Handbrake encoding job?

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**Author:** ![ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7feea3/32.png) [@ebrinkworth\_icloud\_com](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ebrinkworth_icloud_com)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/8 "2023-03-27T08:43:29Z")

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Sorry for the confusion there: I always run the Handbrake job well BEFORE viewing the film.

Additionally, I am aware that the Handbrake operation gets up to some fairly high CPU rates, so I try to avoid running those jobs except at ‘slack’ times. 99% of those Handbrake jobs are transcoding films from “EyeTV” outputs so really not very frequent.

The “stutters” when viewing the M4V output via the ATV seem to occur fairly randomly and are certainly frequent and of such duration as to be damnably frustrating!

TerryB

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/9 "2023-03-27T10:43:42Z")

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Hah! So it looks like I’m asking too much of that mini. I’ll try to check what’s going on at the mini when next I’m watching something and it’s giving grief!  
TerryB

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-or-what/835734/10 "2023-06-25T10:44:35Z")

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