# Plex / PlexAmp Some experiences **URL:** \ **Category:** Plex Labs\ **Tags:** plexamp\ **Created:** [August 20, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245 "2022-08-20T12:50:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jamesray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jamesray/32/289193_2.png) [@jamesray](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jamesray)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/1 "2022-08-20T12:50:44Z")
After using Roon (and I still am) for about 5 years and all those years hoping for a mobile version I lost hope it will ever be released. Tried VPN solutions but that never worked to my satisfaction. So, I bit the bullet a few months ago and bought a license for Plex, mainly to use it when I am on the go or connect to my music when on a holiday. Here are my first experiences with Plexamp. I love the look and feel of PlexAmp on iOS, the snappy response in PlexAmp (and Plex) when browsing my library and the (no) time it needs to start playing music, even on a mobile network and when abroad. I LOVE the Sonic Analysis, it is working mostly well. But, there is always a but… (though Plexamp does not have to be a second Roon), What I dislike or is missing and is not on par with the statement on the PlexAmp website: (…for curators and audiophiles…) I don’t know the definition of an audiophile, but if it is someone who loves expensive cables, audio routers or UTP cables and bitperfect playback, then I am not an audiophile. What I do like is curating / managing my library, find new tracks and add them to playlists, tagging them for moods and occasion’s. So, before you can call Plexamp “… for audiophiles and curators…”, then Plex needs to solve some things. Some of the shortcomings are so big (like various artists, better tag support), I sometimes wonder to myself do the developers actually use Plexamp? 😜 - **Track based genres, styles or tags.** I am a single guy (in terms of music 🙂 ). I can’t imagine I can’t add genres, moods or styles at track level in the Plex app or Plexamp app. I just discovered I can add moods on track level but only in the browser, why not in the apps? To define an album with a few genres / styles or moods does not cover the tracks. Creating Smart Playlists is not working because it is on album or Artist level. @beckfield explained it outstanding what is needed in this topic: > [@Tag support for ROBUST music library organization](https://forums.plex.tv/t/tag-support-for-robust-music-library-organization/106326): > > This is a request for comprehensive support of the ID3/Vorbis/etc. tags that are necessary for truly meaningful and complete organization of music libraries, both classical and popular. Here is what I hope will be a comprehensive list of the ID3 tags that are essential for digital music management (including special needs for classical music). For FLAC and other file formats, the appropriate equivalents of these tags, if they exist, should be supported. Tags which are necessary for complete ma… - **Multiple Artists** There are loads of albums with multiple or various artists. How come you can build a sophisticated Sonic Analysis feature in Plexamp and not solve the way this is “handled” in the year 2022. This way it is unusable, for example albums from Belle & Sebastian and Trentemoller are displayed as Various Artists. - **Links** There are no Links in Reviews of albums or artists to other Albums / Artists which would make your catalog browseable. - **Folders** (or nested Playlists) for Playlists\*\*, as I am importing Playlists and Tags (as playlists in Plex) it becomes a mess when having hundreds of playlists. Same for nested collections. - I can click on year, band or even label when in album view. But there is no info about genre or style. - Why (screenshot 1) is the action list on the bottom of the screen. It does not feel “iOS” and not “natural / airy”. A modal with the options is more in line with the year 2022. Instead of this: ![S-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/0/1/f/01f75f927faa11e4e66ef62488cdd94123db98d6.jpeg) This: ![S-2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/4/2/9/4292ca215668f3ea7533c2351ea3c7270aae4b41.jpeg) - Information about a playlist or mood a track is in. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/4/f/b/4fb3056250cbe7c9e71d79e289857adc47e7403e.jpeg) What doesn’t work (well): - Smart playlist not editable with all fields available in Plexamp (where I can use Mood in the full Plex version, I can’t use it in Plexamp, at least on my iPhone) - Smart collection is not visible in PlexAmp - Some views like Recent plays you can choose for display in a grid or list, other views not, like Playlists. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/2 "2022-09-17T20:49:13Z")
> [@jamesray](#): > > where I can use Mood in the full Plex version, I can’t use it in Plexamp, at least on my iPhone Should be fixed in v4.4. > [@jamesray](#): > > Smart collection is not visible in PlexAmp These should be visible, where are you looking? > [@jamesray](#): > > Some views like Recent plays you can choose for display in a grid or list, other views not, like Playlists Not the case, unless I’m misunderstanding. ![Simulator Screen Shot - iPhone 14 Pro - 2022-09-17 at 10.48.42](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/0/f/9/0f957c247e24d7135e582ddd02dc5e0d5e6cdc7d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jamesray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jamesray/32/289193_2.png) [@jamesray](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jamesray)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/3 "2022-09-19T08:44:26Z")
Thanks @elan for the heads up! > [@elan](#): > > Should be fixed in v4.4. 👍 > [@elan](#): > > These should be visible, where are you looking? Yes, they are visible. I was not very clear (meant creating a smart list) but I found how to do it. When I am in a playlist view I can create a **New playlist** , and was looking there for creating a new smart playlist too, but discovered it is via the path Library / Tracks. > [@elan](#): > > Not the case, unless I’m misunderstanding. Strange, can’t find it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![jamesray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jamesray/32/289193_2.png) [@jamesray](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jamesray)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/4 "2022-09-26T14:01:21Z")
> [@elan](#): > > > [@jamesray](#): > > > > Smart collection is not visible in PlexAmp > > These should be visible, where are you looking? I remembered it again. I created a smart collection with songs of a specific decennium and rated in Plex. These tracks are not visible in the Library in Plexamp. Album collections though I can see. Screenshot of the Collection Plex, only the middle Collection I can retrieve in Plexamp. ![plex](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/a/0/1/a01ba6014c154fdf88dd0a6958934147922dc9d7.jpeg) == > [@elan](#): > > > [@jamesray](#): > > > > Some views like Recent plays you can choose for display in a grid or list, other views not, like Playlists > > Not the case, unless I’m misunderstanding. This is a collect of 8 Deutsche Grammaphon albums. Not a big deal, but I prefer to see the albums in a grid in stead of this list. ![IMG_5160.PNG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/0/7/b/07b2f2255a12247d426fa61efc5d4c58e188d992.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jamesray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jamesray/32/289193_2.png) [@jamesray](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jamesray)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/5 "2022-09-27T09:47:14Z")
Another thing I noticed. I am emptying all Moods filled in the tracks as they make no sense to me and fill them with my own so I can create a Smart Playlist (or collection?) with for example the **Genre** Classical with **Moods** Sunday and Relaxed. I can’t do this in Plexamp as far as I can see and Album Moods are now visible but I don’t see the Moods of tracks in the Library in Plexamp. ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9f8e36/32.png) [@Jason\_D](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Jason_D)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/6 "2022-09-27T13:55:00Z")
> [@jamesray](#): > > I can’t do this in Plexamp as far as I can see Got to Library\>Tracks and then filter tracks by mood. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-plexamp-some-experiences/805245/7 "2022-12-26T13:55:05Z")
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