# Plexamp Album artist order

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520>\
**Category:** Metadata & Adding Files\
**Tags:** library-management\
**Created:** [August 6, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520 "2024-08-06T11:30:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Tenrai-Sensei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tenrai-sensei/32/284970_2.png) [@Tenrai-Sensei](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Tenrai-Sensei)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/1 "2024-08-06T11:30:49Z")

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I started organizing my music library (daunting task to do) using the musicbrainz picard app and see that they sort album artist by last name first which is extremely annoying considering everyone else does first name. Will plex allow to display first name organization? or is this something i need to edit myself.

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**Author:** ![mikesul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mikesul](https://forums.plex.tv/u/mikesul)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/2 "2024-08-06T14:15:08Z")

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> [@Tenrai-Sensei](#):
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> Will plex allow to display first name organization?

Plexamp does sort “Album Artist” by whatever is actually in the Album Artist tag in your track file (e.g. flac file). So for example, my Album Artist tag value is “Bruce Springsteen”, not “Springsteen Bruce”. But I use dbPowerAmp to create my flac files and that program’s default option is to generate as (first name, last name) with an option to perform (last name, first name). As stated, most music software went with (first name last name) as the default. This of course is the exact opposite of what physical media record stores have been doing since the dawn of time 🙂

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**Author:** ![blackzwe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/blackzwe/32/237058_2.png) [@blackzwe](https://forums.plex.tv/u/blackzwe)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/3 "2024-08-06T15:37:16Z")

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Hi @Tenrai-Sensei I had a similar question, refer to the below for options:

> [@Consistency in PlexAmp artist sorting](https://forums.plex.tv/t/consistency-in-plexamp-artist-sorting/733234):
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> I noticed that PlexAmp uses the sort name from MusicBrainz, as it should, which is all good, except that a lot of work needs to go into MusicBrainz to get it all consistent, I would suggest a setting to disregard that meta and just sort as any ordinary player or streaming service does for artists. i.e. name and second name(surname) etc. I have over a thousand artists in my library and it gets very taxing when I am looking for stuff.

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**Author:** ![jimbob100101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jimbob100101/32/298600_2.png) [@jimbob100101](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jimbob100101)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/4 "2024-08-06T17:16:09Z")

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You can override musicbrainz Picard with scripting

I used this script from the musicbrainz forum…

> **[Simple script to sort by First name? Plugin?](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/simple-script-to-sort-by-first-name-plugin/446894/3)**
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> I just came across this thread, so wanted to add this if anyone in future has the same use case as me. I wanted to keep the first name as the default sort, but not for artists beginning with “The” or “A”. So while “Springsteen, Bruce” becomes...

This sets albumartistsort for names like “Bruce Springsteen” but will ignore artists with “the” at the beginning so keeps those like “Beatles, the”

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**Author:** ![Tenrai-Sensei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/tenrai-sensei/32/284970_2.png) [@Tenrai-Sensei](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Tenrai-Sensei)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/5 "2024-08-07T12:59:50Z")

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Thank you for all the reply everyone xD Jimbob i just add this works like a charm much appreciated!!!

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/6 "2024-08-08T09:49:10Z")

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> [@jimbob100101](#):
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> This sets albumartistsort for names like “Bruce Springsteen” but will ignore artists with “the” at the beginning so keeps those like “Beatles, the”

Isn’t that the default behaviour of Plex anyway?  
The only difference is that “The Beatles” turn into just “Beatles” for the Sorting Title.  
(provided you don’t have the ugly ArtistSort and AlbumSort metatags in your files. MB Picard can be taught to _not_ write these.)

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**Author:** ![jimbob100101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jimbob100101/32/298600_2.png) [@jimbob100101](https://forums.plex.tv/u/jimbob100101)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/7 "2024-08-08T10:32:22Z")

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> [@OttoKerner](#):
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> provided you don’t have the ugly ArtistSort and AlbumSort metatags in your files.

This was exactly why the original post exists and that is why I offered the script

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**Author:** ![anon5074910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@anon5074910](https://forums.plex.tv/u/anon5074910)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/8 "2024-08-08T10:47:57Z")

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FYI… album sort can also suffer from this sorting depending on your tags. This is what I do within picard to control the sorting so I get the sorting in plex exactly how I want it …

```auto
$set(artistsort,%albumartist%)
$set(albumartistsort,%albumartist%)
$set(albumsort,%album%)

```

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-album-artist-order/884520/9 "2024-11-06T10:48:06Z")

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