# Plexamp - two songs playing in parallel **URL:** \ **Category:** Plex Labs\ **Tags:** ios-legacy, plexamp\ **Created:** [April 12, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834 "2024-04-12T13:36:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sa2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/sa2000/32/6922_2.png) [@sa2000](https://forums.plex.tv/u/sa2000)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/1 "2024-04-12T13:36:07Z")
Sometimes I notice the current song and the song that follows it in a playlist, playing at the same time. Whilst I am aware that some overlap may be deliberate as we transition from one to the next, on occasions, I notice that concurrent playback happens for long periods Today I noticed it at about 09:58 am PlexAmp Public Release 4.10.1.1254 iPhone 13 Pro iOS 17.4.1 Using Apple CarPlay I thought i should mention this. Low priority issue I believe it was these two tracks - extract from the log ```auto Apr 12, 2024 09:57:29.536 [Javascript] INFO - Player: Sending state changed [A] Tony Bennett - Body and Soul (214/200071) in state playing with artwork true. Apr 12, 2024 09:57:29.554 [Javascript] INFO - Player: Sending state changed [A] Amy Winehouse - October Song (214/204904) in state playing with artwork true. ``` Attached Plex Amp logs [Plexamp-Logs-2024-04-12-1.zip](https://forums.plex.tv/uploads/short-url/8W3qfu5BRusqxJN8urJw6E0puGx.zip) (201.4 KB) PMS Details: `Plex Media Server v1.40.2.8351-9938371be - Microsoft PC x64-x64 - build: windows-x86_64 windows` PS: How do I get access to the beta releases. I lost access to the betas after leaving plex ! ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/2 "2024-04-12T18:18:14Z")
> [@sa2000](#): > > How do I get access to the beta releases I’ve added you to the external testers group, you should have access again. Feel free to DM me an email and I can invite you into the plexamp slack channel if you wish. > [@sa2000](#): > > I believe it was these two tracks I see this in the [Plexamp logs](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-debug-logs-how-to-extract-them/753427): ```auto /Users/elan/Downloads/Plexamp-Logs-2024-04-12-1/Plexamp.4.log:Apr 09, 2024 09:53:56.847 [0x6f4eb000] INFO - BASS: Queueing stream (2 total, 2 handles) with identifier 462170, gain -0.4 dB, overlap duration 12232 ms, start offset 0 ms (paused: 1). ``` So that was a 12 second overlap, which is close to the max it’ll do. It must have been a really long fade-out/in? ---
**Author:** ![sa2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/sa2000/32/6922_2.png) [@sa2000](https://forums.plex.tv/u/sa2000)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/3 "2024-04-13T12:51:54Z")
> [@elan](#): > > So that was a 12 second overlap, which is close to the max it’ll do. It must have been a really long fade-out/in? Thanks for the reply. OK so it is just long fade-out/in’s. That 12 second overlap was another day. I was not aware overlaps could be that long. Looking at the [plexamp logs](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-debug-logs-how-to-extract-them/753427), there is a lot that had more than 3-4 seconds - which is where I expected it to be at. I did not expect overlaps for fading to get as high as that. Looking at the 6 log files, we have | stream (playQueueItemId) | overlap band | overlap (sec) | | --- | --- | --- | | 462170 | 6 to 12 | 12.2 | | 462171 | 2 to 4 | 2.9 | | 462172 | 6 to 12 | 6.4 | | 462173 | 6 to 12 | 6.7 | | 462174 | 5 to 6 | 5.4 | | 462175 | 6 to 12 | 9.6 | | 462176 | 2 to 4 | 3.6 | | 462177 | 6 to 12 | 12.8 | | 462178 | 4 to 5 | 4.7 | | 462179 | 4 to 5 | 4.7 | | 462180 | 6 to 12 | 6.5 | | 462181 | 6 to 12 | 7.6 | | 462182 | 6 to 12 | 8.9 | | 462183 | 4 to 5 | 4.6 | | 462184 | 6 to 12 | 8.5 | | 462185 | 4 to 5 | 4.6 | | 462186 | 2 to 4 | 3.3 | | 462187 | 6 to 12 | 10.7 | | 462188 | 6 to 12 | 8.9 | | 462189 | 6 to 12 | 7.3 | | 462190 | 2 to 4 | 3.4 | | 462191 | 6 to 12 | 7.9 | | 462192 | 5 to 6 | 5.7 | with a lot over 6 seconds | overlap band | count | % | | --- | --- | --- | | 2 to 4 | 4 | 17% | | 4 to 5 | 4 | 17% | | 5 to 6 | 2 | 9% | | 6 to 12 | 13 | 57% | PS: if one needs to find out what the tracks were to investigate afterwards, it is not possible because the stream (playQueueItemIds) appear to get purged from the PMS database - would help if we also logged the metadataID on this log line > [@elan](#): > > I’ve added you to the external testers group, you should have access again Many thanks - we do not appear to give any download links for the beta on our support articles or on the plex.tv/downloads page for the beta package. Well, I have not found it yet. We only link to the Apple App Store here [Media Server Downloads | Plex Media Server for Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD and More](https://www.plex.tv/media-server-downloads/?cat=mobile&plat=ios#plex-plexamp) I am ok with just using the forum and support articles. Don’t need slack access - thank you for the offer. ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/4 "2024-04-13T20:58:30Z")
The current max overlap is 15 seconds (we lowered it from what it used to be). There’s an argument it should be lower. What kind of music are you listening to? It’s possible with e.g. classical the overlap might not work well at all. > [@sa2000](#): > > the stream (playQueueItemIds) appear to get purged from the PMS database They’re purged when the next play queue is created by the specific client; we don’t have the actual metadata item ID at the point where that information is logged. ---
**Author:** ![sa2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/sa2000/32/6922_2.png) [@sa2000](https://forums.plex.tv/u/sa2000)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/5 "2024-04-13T21:17:13Z")
It was all ‘Amy winehouse’ music in this PlayQueue. What would be the impact if the max was set at 5 or 6 seconds ? ---
**Author:** ![elan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/elan/32/5_2.png) [@elan](https://forums.plex.tv/u/elan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/6 "2024-04-13T22:02:00Z")
In some cases, the music would get really quiet for a while because it dropped below the threshold, but for longer than 5-6 seconds from the end. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/plexamp-two-songs-playing-in-parallel/874834/7 "2024-07-12T22:02:30Z")
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