Remote streaming will be a Plex Pass feature

Yes it doesn’t change anything with what I said.

Additionally, this might ONLY take effect for new Plex clients, specifically, the “New Plex Experience” clients that are currently in development. I think that current clients cannot check for a plex pass or the new remote pass to determine if you can stream remotely.

So using a non-updated client (or the old client that might no longer be updated) might allow you to keep viewing content remotely without a pass.

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I pride myself in reading comprehension.
Maths was and will always be my weakness.

I read the entire announcement, and it’s associated FAQ, parts of it several times before I came to the forums for clarification. (and, honestly, I’d not participated here in years, and am about to take yet another hiatus, until the next confusing change).

The way it is written somewhat makes it seem as though ‘newly added’ remote users going forward, even if owner had a Plexpass, might require subscription.

Half my family with access to my server have asked me if they were going to have to pay, even after most reading the article. The other half rarely uses it and likely ignored the announcement.

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Yeah my concern is a bunch of people are going to pay without needing to. And I’m sure Plex knows that as well, especially if the messaging isn’t clear for non-technical people.

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I’d have a question and I’m sorry if that has been answered precisely already in this thread (Searching it for “Skip” or “Intro” didn’t lead me to the answer I needed).

What happens to the previously “paid” features like skip intro/outro now? Currently they’d only be available if the users were inside of my Plex Home or when they had a Plex pass themselves.

With the remote access changes will they now be available to anybody on my server as long as I as the server admin have a Plex Pass?

I’d be very happy if somebody knew this exactly, as I didn’t find out in the article linked in the very first post of this thread and these two features are my main concern regarding the upcoming changes

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Plex haven’t announced/mentioned any changes to the Plex Pass requirements for those features. I think it’s fair to assume that’s not going to change (Plex Pass still required).

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That’d be a bummer tho, but thanks for the FYI

The good thing is though, if the server owner has a plex pass, all users can now use the plex mobile apps for free on that server, which is very nice.

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That’s true, yeah. Was just hoping skip intro/outro would just not be behind a paywall anymore :frowning:

The FAQ mentions no link to Plex Pass. It specifically mentions there’s no more fees related to the mobile apps (unless you’re using them to stream content remotely, which is covered by the Plex Pass / Watch Pass requirement).

So Long, Mobile Unlock Fee

Our Android and iOS mobile apps previously required a one-time activation fee or Plex Pass to remove the one-minute playback limitation when streaming content from a Plex Media Server. As part of these changes, there will no longer be any such one-minute playback limitation. Playing content on a local network will be free in the new mobile apps. These changes will go into effect when the new mobile Plex experience exits the preview period and launches publicly.

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What? Can my users not stream from my server using the mobile app if I have a plex pass? And have to pay otherwise? Where am I wrong?

"When running your own Plex Media Server as a subscriber, other users to whom you have granted access can also stream from the server (whether local or remote), without ANY additional charge—not even a mobile activation fee. " ← so this is not true?

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@JamminR Halfway down the page:

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR CURRENT PLEX PASS HOLDERS:
For users who have an active Plex Pass subscription, remote playback will continue to be available to you without interruption from any Plex Media Server, after these changes go into effect. When running your own Plex Media Server as a subscriber, other users to whom you have granted access can also stream from the server (whether local or remote), without ANY additional charge—not even a mobile activation fee. More on that later in this update.

My understanding is this: Remote streaming will require a subscription by either the server owner or the client/user. The end.

This seems entirely reasonable and sustainable so that the company can make enough money to pay the bills and employees. Pay the $120 today and enjoy many years of decreasing cost. The longer you keep it, the less it costs. Or just pay monthly. Either way, it is not a lot of money for an app you use often.

The question is whether or not the just-released app experience is worth it. THAT is a different question and the answer is a resounding NO. Changing the fee schedule after dropping a turd of an update with a promise of much-loved functionality to return at some point in the future is really an own-goal, shooting yourself in the foot, insert-euphamism-here.

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I didn’t mean to create any confusion.
But I think you’re misinterpreting that section… the paragraph from which you’re quoting refers to the “Upcoming Change to Remote Playback for Personal Media” (widely discussed in this thread).
In that context, your quote simply says that anyone with whom you (a Plex Pass subscriber) are sharing your libraries can still stream remotely from that server without requiring a Plex Pass / Watch Pass of their own.

The quote then refers to the (new) mobile apps no longer requiring an activation (no more 1-minute restrictions). That last part conveniently has a link to the paragraph I had posted as a response to your previous post.

Full quotes:

Your quote

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR CURRENT PLEX PASS HOLDERS:
For users who have an active Plex Pass subscription, remote playback will continue to be available to you without interruption from any Plex Media Server, after these changes go into effect. When running your own Plex Media Server as a subscriber, other users to whom you have granted access can also stream from the server (whether local or remote), without ANY additional charge

With a teaser

—not even a mobile activation fee. More on that later in this update.

partly included in your post

Pointing to…

…the paragraph about no more activation fees for the NEW mobile apps which I quoted above

So Long, Mobile Unlock Fee

Our Android and iOS mobile apps previously required a one-time activation fee or Plex > Pass to remove the one-minute playback limitation when streaming content from a Plex Media Server. As part of these changes, there will no longer be any such one-minute playback limitation. Playing content on a local network will be free in the new mobile apps. These changes will go into effect when the new mobile Plex experience exits the preview period and launches publicly.

I feel the “teaser” makes it a bit ambiguous.

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I am a bit more confused now :open_mouth: Sorry for being slow today, it has been a long week.
Will my users be able to watch using the mobile apps ‘for free’ from my server if I am a subscriber?
(the new mobile apps are out now, or will there be new new apps?)

  1. There’s no more activation requirements / 1-minute restriction in the mobile apps („new apps“ = v2025.10.x and newer).

  2. They won’t need an own Plex Pass or Watch Pass to stream remotely from your server (your Plex Pass enables that for them)

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If YOU have a Plex Pass, then nothing much changes for your users. Anyone who watches your stuff will have no restrictions (just like before) on your stuff. I make no guarantee on whether a user of yours will be able to watch something from - to make up a name - Bob’s server down the road if Bob does not have a Pass.

But since you have a Pass, users using your server can watch your stuff, even if they are on the moon (what IP address does the moon use?).

In addition, since the Mobile app one-time purchase/fee is going away, that means that anyone who freeloaded off of your server (has no pass of their own) can now use the mobile apps for free as well.

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Jellyfin outside your house is a bit more difficult to set up. and there are not as many client apps for as many devices.

You can get it to work, but the remote setup is not as easy as Plex. But jellyfin is all free so you can download and give it a try.

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They will only be able to watch Bob’s server if Bob has his own Plex Pass, or each user has their own Plex Pass/Remote Watch Pass.

Something I put together earlier.

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I know how the pass mechanic works. I was trying to stress that - while I am definitively telling Orko what their users can do with Orko’s server - I am not able to say whether they could watch on Bob’s, because we do not know the state of Bob’s server having a pass, or the existence of a Plex Pass (or stream pass) on the friends.

Edit: Yes, I spelled out that this theoretical “Bob” had no pass, so technically, a user couldn’t stream remotely from it unless that user had their own pass (stream or full).