Some local connections are listed as indirect

I have PMS running on windows 10 on my local network. When I use the web player on the same PC (or on a different PC on same network), I get a local connection as I would expect. However, when I use a local Roku or android app on the same network, I get the indirect connection. I would expect and like these to be local connections. From outside my network, I get remote access and that is working fine and listed as remote. I have port 32400 forwarded and PMS set to that port manually.

I am using comcast’s provided router/wifi.
As best as I can tell all the local wifi connected players are getting the indirect connection and the hardwired (ethernet) are showing as local.

I have security in PMS set to preferred.

Any suggestions?

see Server not showing as local

Comcast (my ISP) has the DNS entries locked down on the router so I can’t change them. However, I set one of my wireless clients as static and used the google DNS servers. I still have the issue.

Note that it does work correctly for some clients on the local network (and those are getting their settings from the comcast router for DNS). So I’m not sure what to try next.

Do you have perhaps more than one ā€œrouterā€-type device in your home network? Maybe you added additional routers to improve wireless coverage?
Or some connection inbetween is done with PowerLAN adaptors?

Good thought, but I only have the one device provided by comcast (modem/router/wifi) in use. We get good enough wifi coverage with their default device.

Its as if the rokus and phone (all on wifi) aren’t seen as local and try to connect remotely, but can’t. So they go through the relay. Those connected by ethernet (3 differrent computers) are all seen as locally correctly.

Is your WiFi perhaps in ā€˜guest network’ mode or is there a feature enabled which is often called ā€˜client isolation’ or ā€˜AP isolation’? (or similar)

I’m familiar with both those concepts. However, there are no settings (or displays) for those options in my comcast router. It is rather limited in its configurability. I think I’m fortunate that it has port forwarding. lol.

Then I’m inclined to blame the comcast router.

Maybe, you should go for a wireless ā€œaccess pointā€ device and use this for your wireless clients, instead of the main router’s WiFi?
Since the access point is attached per wire, it should put your wireless devices into the same subnet with your server and the other wired clients.

Yeah, I think that should work. I was trying to stay away from having to add additional hardware to my network (just to keep things simpler). If I can’t think of another way or another suggestion doesn’t come along in a day or two, I may give that a try. Thanks.

I’ve lost count of the number of potential solutions/tweaks I tried in order to resolve this issue, both to the Plex interface and to my computer’s network settings. (Even when my computer would finally establish an indirect connection it always took ages to do so.)

In the end I uninstalled version 18.x (I think I’d updated to all variations as and when they were released) and reinstalled version 17.0.x which, luckily, I hadn’t deleted. It resulted in an instant ā€˜cure’.

I guess I’ll try the occasional new version, as and when they become available, in the hope that this apparent glitch is finally resolved, reverting back to version 17.0.x, again, if need be.

Where do I get a copy of 17.0.x? I can’t find it on the web. I’m not sure that plex publishes older versions.

I’m not at all sure if this will upload, successfully, but here goes:

Uploading: PlexMediaServer-1.17.0.1709-982421575-x86.zip…

or (on a further edit)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1W3Jo6Eyftd6NFe8qLZ_Yn0cUSOxmS6AE?usp=sharing


Please let me know which (if either) works. Although with the first link, my computer appears to gradually upload the associated zip file, I find that clicking it does nothing (and it’s preceded by the word ā€˜Uploading’ so is, presumably, a dud), and the second option is a link to a shared file I’ve just created on my Google Drive (which I’m pretty certain will work). Good luck!

One more thing, in ā€˜General’ under ā€˜Settings’, from the options ā€˜Server version updates’ I set this to ā€˜Ask me’ rather than ā€˜Automatically during server maintenance’ because the damned thing automatically upgraded it to one of the 18.x versions, again, meaning I had to repeat the entire uninstall/reinstall process to reinstate version 17.0.x.

The first link did not download. I was able to download from the 2nd link. Thanks.

Unfortunately I’ve installed the version you provided, restarted everything and still am getting the indirect connection from wireless devices on my network.

I wonder if the logs would provide any useful information regarding this issue.

Oh, sugar (admittedly not the first ā€˜S’ word that came to mind)!

I’ve no idea what you could try, next: it appears you’ve tried all of the obvious things and it’s proving to be real needle in a haystack stuff. It seems to be a pretty widespread issue so we can only hope it’s a genuine Plex-based issue that they’ll resolve before too long.

Best of luck!

Here’s the workaround I’m using to solve the issue:
I’m using the latest version of PMS on Win 10.
Comcast modem/router is fully functional providing tv, phone, wired and wireless internet. I took an old router and configured it as an Access Point and connected it to a wired port of the Comcast modem/router. Now when I connect to the SSID of the Access Point I get a direct connection to PMS. Note that I could not use the Comcast modem/router in bridge mode. That disabled too much functionality that I still needed from the device. Also, I didn’t use my old device as a router because I wanted to avoid a double NAT situation. So I used it to only provide wireless.

The root issue seems to be the way the Comcast modem/router separates or isolates the wireless traffic from the wired traffic even though its on the same subnet. And there is no advanced configuration available to allow me to change that behavior.

Thanks everyone for the help and tips. Hopefully this will help someone in the future.