# Subtitle and Closed Captioning

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966>\
**Category:** Metadata & Adding Files\
**Tags:** subtitles\
**Created:** [January 3, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966 "2021-01-03T22:55:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/1 "2021-01-03T22:55:37Z")

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I use iFlicks to set up meta data for my media. I only use SRT files in videos that have foreign language audio. I also have language to always plays subtitles. That is the only way they play. I have some videos (both TV and movie) I have converted and have no subtitles. When I play them they have subtitles though. I checked and they say Closed Captioning not SRT like the movies I do.

Any ideas? Thanks!!!

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/2 "2021-01-03T23:09:34Z")

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> **[Adding Local Subtitles to Your Media | Plex Support](https://support.plex.tv/articles/200471133-adding-local-subtitles-to-your-media/)**
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> Enable “Local Media Assets” If your media contains embedded subtitles or you have an external subtitle file, you have local...

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**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/3 "2021-01-03T23:15:17Z")

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> [@OttoKerner](#):
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> Adding Local Subtitles to Your Media | Plex Support

Is there something specific I should do?

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/4 "2021-01-03T23:16:23Z")

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Yes, read the article. 😉  
Then compare your settings and in particular your file names and their file access permissions.

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**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/5 "2021-01-03T23:26:14Z")

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OK I guess my issues is I don’t have subtitles for some movies and the subs selection shows closed captioning and their should be no subs at all. Subs don’t show in VLC or Apple iTunes.

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**Author:** ![FordGuy61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/22d042/32.png) [@FordGuy61](https://forums.plex.tv/u/FordGuy61)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/6 "2021-01-04T02:04:33Z")

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Look at the Media Info for a TV episode. Do you see EIA 608 listed as one of the codecs?

That’s closed captioning. It is part of the video stream, not a separate track like audio or subtitles, and not burned in either. See this [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIA-608) for details.

I haven’t tried it, but this might help: [SOLUTION: EIA\_608 Subtitles Suck - Here’s how to automatically replace them with srt goodness](https://forums.plex.tv/t/solution-eia-608-subtitles-suck-heres-how-to-automatically-replace-them-with-srt-goodness/390008)

Edit: Check the end of the above thread. Looks like there is an updated version:

[Tutorial: The Perfect PostProcess System: Beautiful SRT Subtitles, Commercials Cut, Video Hardware Converted, & NFL Games Done Right - MCEBuddy Replacement For Linux](https://forums.plex.tv/t/tutorial-the-perfect-postprocess-system-beautiful-srt-subtitles-commercials-cut-video-hardware-converted-nfl-games-done-right-mcebuddy-replacement-for-linux/637271)

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**Author:** ![JuiceWSA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/juicewsa/32/12253_2.png) [@JuiceWSA](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JuiceWSA)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/7 "2021-01-04T02:26:39Z")

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Closed Captioning is buried into the Video Stream.  
MediaInfo (the program) won’t show them - but Plex will as shown above.

In fact, if ‘Unknown’ annoys you - and/or you want them to actually have a language (helpful when Plex is trying to pick one based on a language) - tagging the video stream with a language will do the trick - it’s the one and only trick.

One of the FEW (2?) things I have to pull them out of the video stream, for editing, is MCEBuddy. It will lay an srt file beside the video file, for use, or muxing back in fixed (De-SDHed).

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**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/8 "2021-01-04T03:34:23Z")

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Thats it. Thanks. Trying to remove them with MCE buddy and handbrake for Mac.

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**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/9 "2021-01-04T03:34:54Z")

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Thats it. Thanks!! Trying to remove them with MCE buddy and handbrake for Mac.

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**Author:** ![JuiceWSA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/juicewsa/32/12253_2.png) [@JuiceWSA](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JuiceWSA)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/10 "2021-01-04T04:21:03Z")

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To remove them you must re encode the video stream, lowering it’s quality. You can extract an srt version, but the captioning is still in the video stream.

I tag the video stteam with a language, then extract and edit an srt version to display.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitle-and-closed-captioning/673966/11 "2021-04-04T04:21:12Z")

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