# Subtitles - Help Please

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**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [February 1, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-help-please/829213 "2023-02-01T22:30:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![yourpalfranc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@yourpalfranc](https://forums.plex.tv/u/yourpalfranc)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-help-please/829213/34 "2023-02-08T00:33:37Z")

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First of all, I’d like to thank all of you that have offered help on this topic. I’ve finally made some progress.

Initially, I re-ripped the film (Kill Bill 1) and used MKVToolNix to edit the (first English sub track) “forced” parameter to “true.” I tried a custom profile for MakeMKV to set the value during the rip, but it didn’t work. I’m still working on that. There were 2 English subtitle entries, and I picked the first one. After the edit, I had the following values.

 ![Capture-plex-mkvnixtools-killbill-values](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/b/3/3/b338ca12fcdb2d16c5db6c7881d9a52bf7b0d483.png)

Then, I restored the file to Plex and did the [Plex Dance](https://forums.plex.tv/t/the-plex-dance/197064). Plex showed the following for subtitles…

 ![Capture-plex-killbill-sub-menu.PNG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/d/d/9/dd92d7962681601270403c180eb40d0507889c7d.jpeg)

When I played the movie, subtitles were on constantly, which was not my intention.

So, I removed the files from Plex and edited the header again to include the second English subtitle.

 ![Capture-plex-mkvnixtools-killbill-values1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/6/c/8/6c8c10f46fa5fd1f78d7c0c009b65e5015688d26.png)

I then replaced the files and did the [Plex Dance](https://forums.plex.tv/t/the-plex-dance/197064) again which gave a second choice for subtitles.

 ![Capture-plex-killbill-sub-menu1.PNG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/2/1/b/21bc7918c33e678ffaeaa2ff613417918f72eaa6.jpeg)

Not making a change in the selection, I played the movie again with the same results; constant subtitles. I then selected the second subtitle menu and it FINALLY worked as I’d hoped and expected! The subtitles were actually even a different color and font that those I’d seen before.

So, now my question is “how do you know” or is it just a trial and error situation to select the proper “forced” track? Is there any magic to it?

If I were a YouTube creator, I’d think this would make a great video topic. There’s a lot to know about subtitles. You guys have presented the knowledge here in this post, but it’s a lot to sort out in this format.

But anyway, thanks again. On to Kill Bill vol. 2, and I still want to see if I can get a MakeMKV custom profile to set this values automatically.

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