# Subtitles with different versions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Plex Media Server\ **Tags:** server-synology, playback, media-optimizer, subtitles\ **Created:** [June 4, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429 "2023-06-04T18:49:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/1 "2023-06-04T18:49:04Z")
I am a little confused and need some help w naming. I keep two different movie libraries for standard movies and one for 4k versions. I can combine them into one folder and one library and select the version but the forced subs are giving me a headache. Examples: The Avengers -720p.m4v The Avengers - k4.m4v but how do I name the subtitles currently I have The Avengers.en.forced.srt but it does not work. I need subs to work on both versions. Thanks!!! ---
**Author:** ![JaysPlex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jaysplex/32/281767_2.png) [@JaysPlex](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JaysPlex)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/2 "2023-06-04T19:02:17Z")
You can’t have the same subtitle work for both because the names of the subtitles have to match the name of the title. Just make a copy of the subtitle if the timing works for both versions Always put the year for movies in parenthesis btw. You will save yourself a lot of aggravation The Avengers (2012) - 720p.m4v The Avengers (2012) - 720p.en.forced.srt The Avengers (2012) - 4k.m4v The Avengers (2012) - 4k.en.forced.srt [https://support.plex.tv/articles/200471133-adding-local-subtitles-to-your-media/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/200471133-adding-local-subtitles-to-your-media/) ---
**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/3 "2023-06-04T23:32:26Z")
Great. I did that, I must have mistyped something. That seemed to work. One two other questions, I have subtitle set to foreign language so only forced subs show, however all PGS subs are also selected. any way to disable that? I just want forced subs to be selected. iOS - how do select which version to download, obviously my phone I want the smaller version - 720. Thanks!!! ---
**Author:** ![JaysPlex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/jaysplex/32/281767_2.png) [@JaysPlex](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JaysPlex)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/4 "2023-06-04T23:53:33Z")
If it’s only pgs subs then your settings are probably ok but look here to double check **Server settings → Accounts → Audio & Subtitle Settings** ![Screenshot (1408)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/2/1/b/21b6674c3dd68ba7951dea845c91f46d735da1f4.png) I think those pgs subs might have been encoded with the “forced” flag so Plex is treating them that way I don’t use pgs subs because they can cause the video to transcode when it really isn’t necessary for any other reason You may have to use MkvToolNix to mix those subs out of the file. Either that or you can disable the forced flag or change the language to undetermined if you really want to keep them I actually use it to embed my forced subs directly into my mkv’s so the externals don’t crowd up my file system I do not use downloads or iOS, so I’ll have to leave that question to someone else ---
**Author:** ![FordGuy61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/22d042/32.png) [@FordGuy61](https://forums.plex.tv/u/FordGuy61)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/5 "2023-06-05T01:31:51Z")
A short addition to @JaysPlex note… For forced subtitles, Plex will pick external subtitles before embedded subtitles. For example, I have the movie A Bridge To Far in my library, with embedded PGS subtitles. I also have external SRT subtitles for the forced track. Plex clients auto-pick the forced SRT subtitle track instead of the embedded PGS track. If I manually select another subtitle track, Plex remembers that selection the next time I play the movie. Also, if you do not have external subtitles for the forced track, you can use [Subtitle Edit](https://www.nikse.dk/) to convert the PGS track. Converting the full subtitle track is usually a pain, as you have to confirm a lot of words that are not in the Subtitle Edit dictionary (usually proper names). However, converting forced subtitles is usually quite fast, as there are not many entries. For A Bridge Too Far, the full subtitle track has ~1820 lines. However, the forced track has just 188, so the conversion is quite fast. ```auto A Bridge Too Far (1977).mkv A Bridge Too Far (1977).eng.forced.srt ``` MKVToolNix Header Editor ![A Bridge Too Far](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/4X/8/a/7/8a7a7ac0c7ffe97b0f102c07c542631424af9a5d.png) ---
**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/6 "2023-06-05T02:46:37Z")
That worked. Thanks. One setting missed. ---
**Author:** ![cjanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@cjanus](https://forums.plex.tv/u/cjanus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/7 "2023-06-05T02:46:50Z")
Awesome. Thanks!! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/subtitles-with-different-versions/843429/8 "2023-09-03T02:47:09Z")
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