# Title sort

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067>\
**Category:** Plex Media Server\
**Tags:** server-windows\
**Created:** [June 7, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067 "2021-06-07T08:56:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThomasCSR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/thomascsr/32/12675_2.png) [@ThomasCSR](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasCSR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/1 "2021-06-07T08:56:26Z")

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#### Version 1.23.2.4656

Is there a way to make Plex use the system character set for title sort?  
As it is now I have to replace “æ” with zz, “ø” with “zzz” and “å” with zzzz.

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/2 "2021-06-07T09:00:00Z")

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Are you expecting that e.g. “ø” is sitting at the end of the alphabet, after the “z”?  
Isn’t it much more logical to find it after the “o”?

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**Author:** ![ThomasCSR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/thomascsr/32/12675_2.png) [@ThomasCSR](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasCSR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/3 "2021-06-07T09:02:42Z")

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Nope. Deffently not. No Dane would look for ø aftor o!!!  
It’s a compleete different caracher.

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**Author:** ![ThomasCSR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/thomascsr/32/12675_2.png) [@ThomasCSR](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasCSR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/5 "2021-06-07T09:08:56Z")

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Sorry… wrong string.

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**Author:** ![ThomasCSR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/thomascsr/32/12675_2.png) [@ThomasCSR](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasCSR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/6 "2021-06-07T09:10:31Z")

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I see that Plex support the Sweedish alphabet …  
Unfortunately not the Norwegian and Danish set!

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/7 "2021-06-07T09:11:42Z")

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What makes you think so?

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**Author:** ![ThomasCSR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/thomascsr/32/12675_2.png) [@ThomasCSR](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasCSR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/8 "2021-06-07T09:17:44Z")

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It did once but now I see it doesn’t anymore. (The Swedish ö and å appeared some years ago beyond z)

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**Author:** ![ThomasCSR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/thomascsr/32/12675_2.png) [@ThomasCSR](https://forums.plex.tv/u/ThomasCSR)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/9 "2021-06-07T09:19:38Z")

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Anyway the work around with extra z’s is okay (I just have to remember to correct this)

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**Author:** ![OttoKerner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/ottokerner/32/10079_2.png) [@OttoKerner](https://forums.plex.tv/u/OttoKerner)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/10 "2021-06-07T10:13:36Z")

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I’ve asked and the answer is probably not entirely satisfactory to you:  
Plex is using the unicode standard root collation for ordering.  
An (extrememely technical and convoluted) explanation of that can be found in here [UTS #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm](https://unicode.org/reports/tr10/#Collation_And_Code_Chart_Order)

What will probably be changed in the future, is that Plex won’t generate an ASCII-version of the title to put into the “sort title” anymore. (e.g. currently, title “Øl” becomes sort title “Ol”)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/title-sort/721067/11 "2021-09-05T10:13:59Z")

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