# Triaging Sonic Analysis problems? **URL:** \ **Category:** Metadata & Adding Files\ **Tags:** server-mac, plexamp\ **Created:** [July 13, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606 "2022-07-13T14:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scztt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/scztt/32/192877_2.png) [@scztt](https://forums.plex.tv/u/scztt)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/1 "2022-07-13T14:36:53Z")
Server Version#: 1.27.1.5916 I enabled Sonic Analysis on my main library a week or two ago. I saw the scan progress reported immediately, and then didn’t notice much of anything for the next days. Fast forward until now - sonic analysis specific features (e.g. sonic adventure) have still not appeared for this library. I’ve tried triggering a rescan via disabling and re-enabling sonic analysis for that library, and by turning off and on “as a scheduled task and when media is added”. Mostly recently after doing this, I see the following in my logs: ```nohighlight Jul 13, 2022 16:20:09.274 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Activity: updated activity ae026b05-d902-456f-9dc0-7fa65acf0bda - completed 40.0% - Sonic Analysis Jul 13, 2022 16:20:09.304 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Building tree. Jul 13, 2022 16:20:18.485 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Building album index with 10524 albums. Jul 13, 2022 16:20:18.485 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Activity: updated activity ae026b05-d902-456f-9dc0-7fa65acf0bda - completed 60.0% - Sonic Analysis Jul 13, 2022 16:20:18.492 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Building tree. Jul 13, 2022 16:20:19.614 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Building artist index with 5484 artists. Jul 13, 2022 16:20:19.614 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Activity: updated activity ae026b05-d902-456f-9dc0-7fa65acf0bda - completed 80.0% - Sonic Analysis Jul 13, 2022 16:20:19.618 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Building tree. Jul 13, 2022 16:20:20.876 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Activity: Ended activity ae026b05-d902-456f-9dc0-7fa65acf0bda. Jul 13, 2022 16:20:20.876 [0x70000fe9b000] DEBUG - [MusicAnalysis] Indexes completed. ``` I see no errors, and this seems to indicate that all (or at least the vast majority) of the library has completed - I can only guess that it finished so fast because all of the files already had analysis data. However, I STILL don’t see any Sonic Analysis related features in this library. Even more strange: I have another small library that I initially tested Sonic Analysis on - this library scanned just fine, and the sonic analysis features are working here IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT I have since turned off sonic analysis for that library. What gives? How can I triage this problem? Any advice about what to search for in my logs? I’m not sure what else to do here to figure out what’s happening, or enable these features. ---
**Author:** ![nibbles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/nibbles/32/150497_2.png) [@nibbles](https://forums.plex.tv/u/nibbles)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/2 "2022-07-14T07:41:36Z")
Interesting question, and I’m new to it, > **[Sonic Analysis for Music | Plex Support](https://support.plex.tv/articles/sonic-analysis-music/)** > > Tip!: Sonic analysis for music is a premium feature and requires an active Plex Pass subscription for the Server admin... we should ask, do you fit within the parameters? I can see you have a Plex Pass, but you didn’t list you PlexAmp version and whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![scztt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/scztt/32/192877_2.png) [@scztt](https://forums.plex.tv/u/scztt)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/3 "2022-07-14T13:57:02Z")
Yes, I have a Plex pass and current Plex amp versions on my phone, ipad, and desktop. And in any case, as I mentioned, ANOTHER library on the same account does have the analysis features enabled for all my plexamp clients - the problem is specific to only one of my libraries. Incidentally, I tried deleting the analysis database files as suggested in a other thread - these seemed to regenerate almost immediately, and I still dont see analysis features unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![scztt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/scztt/32/192877_2.png) [@scztt](https://forums.plex.tv/u/scztt)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/4 "2022-07-14T14:07:01Z")
Even weirder: For my library where sonic analysis WAS turned ON but is now turned OFF, I see features like “Sonic Adventure” (which I think is analysis based?), but I DONT see “Sonically Similar” for artists / albums. For my library with sonic analysis turned ON, I don’t see “Sonic Adventure” etc, but I DO see “Sonically Similar” for artists / albums. I’m very confused (or maybe just wrong about which features are associated with analysis?) ---
**Author:** ![nibbles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/nibbles/32/150497_2.png) [@nibbles](https://forums.plex.tv/u/nibbles)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/5 "2022-07-14T17:29:50Z")
Understood. If you edit your first post and add a **plexamp** tag along with, I suggest, PlexAmp also in the title, you’ll find a number of experts all the way up to Elan will jump onto this thread because they’re subscribed and it’s their baby. I don’t want to wall of text this thread asking for a ton of debugging stuff in case it’s obvious to them, okay. I’ll assume you [plex dance](https://forums.plex.tv/t/the-plex-dance/197064) in testing, as you’re already into the database. There’s always [manual scans](https://support.plex.tv/articles/201242707-plex-media-scanner-via-command-line/) when making test libraries, but I haven’t tried it for music + plexamp. ---
**Author:** ![scztt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/scztt/32/192877_2.png) [@scztt](https://forums.plex.tv/u/scztt)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/6 "2022-08-25T22:25:18Z")
I have definitely done the [Plex dance](https://forums.plex.tv/t/the-plex-dance/197064). I tried some manual scans, but didn’t see anything interesting there… Any in any case, it doesn’t LOOK like scanning is fundamentally the problem, as the logs show the scan working okay. I’m _very_ curious what the conditions are for the Sonic Analysis features to be displayed. I created a new “test” library and left Sonic Analysis off from the beginning. The Sonic Adventure tab here will let me pick things from other libraries, but when I create my mix it warns me that I have no analysis data and just queues up the two tracks. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/triaging-sonic-analysis-problems/800606/7 "2022-11-23T22:25:34Z")
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