# Using both XMLTV and Plex guides at the same time **URL:** \ **Category:** Plex Media Server\ **Tags:** livetv-dvr\ **Created:** [April 3, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679 "2022-04-03T03:22:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Daniel15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Daniel15](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Daniel15)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679/1 "2022-04-03T03:22:05Z")
I’d like to set up my HDHomeRun using the Plex guide, and xTeVe using an XMLTV guide. I used to use a hack/workaround to accomplish this: > [@Multiple epg sources, for those with multiple tuners](https://forums.plex.tv/t/multiple-epg-sources-for-those-with-multiple-tuners/192844/150): > > Just open more than one browser or tab in your browser to your Plex server. Once you remove all your tuners, each browser session will be the wizard (and once the wizard starts it becomes independent of the other tabs), and using the wizard add each of your tuners (or set of tuners) to get independent EPGs in each of your browsers. I did that to get my two, each with their own EPG. Now that Plex officially supports multiple tuners, I thought I’d try that functionality out rather than using the hack. I added my HDHomeRun using the Plex guide fine. However, if I try to add xTeVe + the XMLTV guide, it doesn’t let me select an XMLTV guide. If I enter an invalid ZIP code where no Plex guide exists, I get this message: > Because you already set up a tuner using Plex DVR guide data, we are unable to offer the option to use a XMLTV guide. Is there really no way to do this? I thought that it’d be a common case for people that want to have both their local antenna service plus an internet TV service (or something like disqueTV) in Plex at the same time… ---
**Author:** ![sixxnet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@sixxnet](https://forums.plex.tv/u/sixxnet)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679/2 "2022-04-03T03:34:02Z")
You’re SOL. Use one or the other but not both. Or you can setup another instance of PMS and use that for just xTeVe which is what I do. ---
**Author:** ![Daniel15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Daniel15](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Daniel15)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679/3 "2022-06-14T17:29:36Z")
Oh no! That’s unfortunate ☹ Thanks for the reply. ---
**Author:** ![daorriss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/daorriss/32/209052_2.png) [@daorriss](https://forums.plex.tv/u/daorriss)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679/4 "2022-08-18T00:02:28Z")
Yea Plex wants to raise as many barriers for using Plex for IPTV purposes as possible… it’s unfortunate because I was a huge fan UNTIL they took this turn… I paid for lifetime pass… not ‘neutered lifetime pass’. ---
**Author:** ![Hellomoto335](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@Hellomoto335](https://forums.plex.tv/u/Hellomoto335)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679/5 "2022-11-15T16:55:15Z")
Have been searching for a fix to this as there arent any good free UK xmltv providers and if plex wants to put a load of extra features into the dvr when using plex guides then they should atleast give the option for xmltv aswell. (also commenting to stop this being automatically closed.) Please plex just give us this minor thing. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2acb9765406f63293d357b4ec509ec39aa28f2ad.png) [@system](https://forums.plex.tv/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/using-both-xmltv-and-plex-guides-at-the-same-time/785679/6 "2023-02-13T16:55:29Z")
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