# When does PMS update itself?

**URL:** <https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035>\
**Category:** Plex Media Server\
**Tags:** server-windows\
**Created:** [June 17, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035 "2021-06-17T08:15:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrEthernet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/mrethernet/32/189279_2.png) [@MrEthernet](https://forums.plex.tv/u/MrEthernet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/1 "2021-06-17T08:15:07Z")

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I’m trying to figure out the best time for Windows and Plex to auto-update themselves so they don’t take any Plex streams down when someone’s likely to be connected to the server.

How do you specify the time frame when PMS updates itself? Does this happen within the Scheduled Tasks start and stop times?

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**Author:** ![TeknoJunky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/teknojunky/32/165055_2.png) [@TeknoJunky](https://forums.plex.tv/u/TeknoJunky)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/2 "2021-06-17T08:55:39Z")

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> [@MrEthernet](#):
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> How do you define the time frame when PMS updates itself? Does this happen within the Scheduled Tasks start and stop times?

I believe so, but I did not find any confirmation in the support docs.

[https://support.plex.tv/articles/202197488-scheduled-server-maintenance/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/202197488-scheduled-server-maintenance/)

I don’t normally run pms on windows, so don’t have much experience when it auto updates.

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**Author:** ![MrEthernet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/mrethernet/32/189279_2.png) [@MrEthernet](https://forums.plex.tv/u/MrEthernet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/3 "2021-06-17T14:35:28Z")

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> [@TeknoJunky](#):
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> I believe so, but I did not find any confirmation in the support docs.

I guess this is the answer:

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/9/d/9db83b4fc61ff56dd2700006d7f91cf7816250c5.jpeg)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/2/a/2a9fbcc0bd68ae9a707d1874098dde1ab016f3c3.jpeg)

My problem is there’s no mention of version updates being a “task”.

Should we assume that it is a task, albeit one that isn’t actually mentioned anywhere under Scheduled Tasks?!

IMO there should at least be an additional entry that says “Install version updates” and then have its checkbox checked but grayed out, to indicate to the user that they can’t disable it from happening within the maintenance window.

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**Author:** ![JuiceWSA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/juicewsa/32/12253_2.png) [@JuiceWSA](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JuiceWSA)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/4 "2021-06-17T14:43:41Z")

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> [@MrEthernet](#):
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> Windows and Plex to auto-update themselves so they don’t take any Plex streams down when someone’s likely to be connected to the server.

Windows aside (that update takes - forever) it’s likely Plex can update itself - and never bother a stream. It happens all the time at my house. If I have friends on and watching when I need to reboot the Server, I just reboot the server. The streams run off the Buffer in their devices until the server comes back up.

Of course, my streams have a WHOLE LOT more in the buffer at any given time than others _ **and your mileage will absolutely vary** _.

Is there any reason you can’t go to a manual update from Plex - so you need to push the button at an opportune time instead of rolling the dice and letting Plex push it for you?

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**Author:** ![MrEthernet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/mrethernet/32/189279_2.png) [@MrEthernet](https://forums.plex.tv/u/MrEthernet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/5 "2021-06-17T14:45:56Z")

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> [@JuiceWSA](#):
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> it’s likely Plex can update itself - and never bother a stream

That’s cool. I was thinking about buffers and figured it might work but wasn’t sure the clients would reconnect quickly enough afterwards.

> [@JuiceWSA](#):
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> The streams run off the Buffer in their devices until the server comes back up.

Awesome! I guess I don’t have anything to worry about in that case.

> [@JuiceWSA](#):
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> Is there any reason you can’t go to a manual update from Plex - so you need to push the button at an opportune time instead of rolling the dice and letting Plex push it for you?

Laziness.

Basically I’d like to set it and forget it. I trust updates not to break anything so don’t mind if they happen automatically but just wanted to ensure they happened when no one would be using it (so late at night basically).

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**Author:** ![JuiceWSA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/juicewsa/32/12253_2.png) [@JuiceWSA](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JuiceWSA)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/6 "2021-06-17T14:49:52Z")

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Don’t be lazy - and here’s why:  
I like to look at the update notes - and give others the hour or two ‘safety net testing’ that would reveal the thermo-nuclear device that could be packaged up in that Plex Update… it’s happened before and I have no illusions it won’t happen again…lol

It’s just an update - yes, we’re all likely waiting for that fix - but we’ve probably been waiting this long, a little more won’t hurt…

🙂

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**Author:** ![MrEthernet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/mrethernet/32/189279_2.png) [@MrEthernet](https://forums.plex.tv/u/MrEthernet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/7 "2021-06-17T14:51:21Z")

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Are bad updates eventually fixed by subsequent good ones, or do people have to roll back and screw around with PMS to fix it? I don’t mind waiting for it to automatically fix itself lol.

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**Author:** ![JuiceWSA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/juicewsa/32/12253_2.png) [@JuiceWSA](https://forums.plex.tv/u/JuiceWSA)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/8 "2021-06-17T14:52:36Z")

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Yea, Plex won’t let a bomb survive long… at least there’s that.

I’d rather wait a little, than back up a version (or two) when I’ve leaped too soon.

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**Author:** ![MrEthernet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/plex/user_avatar/forums.plex.tv/mrethernet/32/189279_2.png) [@MrEthernet](https://forums.plex.tv/u/MrEthernet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/9 "2021-06-17T14:53:46Z")

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I ran auto-update manually on June 16th and it [said I was already up to date](https://forums.plex.tv/t/web-interface-said-pms-was-already-up-to-date-but-a-newer-version-existed/722875) but a new version was released on the 14th, a couple of days before -so I already kind of had the feeling that letting PMS update itself would lag behind manual updates a bit! I guess that’s why updates that break it wasn’t something I was that nervous about.

Also, I don’t have the beta channel enabled, so I’m not getting the _bleeding_ edge updates either. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/10 "2021-06-17T14:54:52Z")

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Just in case it’s good to have this information for a rapid roll Back.

Thanks to Otto

 ![Screen Shot 2021-06-18 at 12.53.24 am](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/plex/original/3X/a/b/abe4e3be7cb4a92ab6820bed249ff2c16ac94823.png)

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/11 "2021-06-17T14:58:27Z")

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> [@MrEthernet](#):
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> Also, I don’t have the beta channel enabled, so I’m not getting the _bleeding_ edge updates either.

THAT is a good idea.

What I would do - is change the update routine to Manual - you can have Plex send the update if you like, but make sure it’s YOU that triggers it.

You can test it yourself that way:  
Start a Stream on a device - then update the server.  
You may find your stream continues on without interruption.  
Mine do - locally and remote.

… and yes - I always reboot the server after an update.  
That never affects a stream negatively at my house either.

Note:  
If streams are in progress - I update the server - then when that calms down and the streams get more buffer - I reboot the box. Painless.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/12 "2021-06-17T15:10:10Z")

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> [@JuiceWSA](#):
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> You can test it yourself that way:  
> Start a Stream on a device - then update the server.  
> You may find your stream continues on without interruption.

Interesting. Do you mean to use manual updates as a temporary setting, just to see if PMS updates interrupts streams, or as a setting to keep enabled permanently?

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/13 "2021-06-17T15:13:27Z")

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Mine is permanent.

I don’t let Plex do a lot of things without supervision.  
Updates are at the top of the list ('cause I have had to back up from my Version backups - and I’d really like to avoid any future forays into that sequence of events).

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.plex.tv/t/when-does-pms-update-itself/723035/14 "2021-09-15T15:13:41Z")

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