OOOH. it sounds like it’s time for me to upgrade then! 
I got mine direct from QNAP. I bet Amazon is trying to sell off their old stock now. If a price difference, See if it’s worth it
I have decided on the 1280 if I can get the i7-7700.
If not I am getting the 1277 will worry about the ram later.
I have 1815 and 1817 which one will likely be sold.
I have 2x10 , 2x 8 ,2x6 ironwolf,
4x8 WD RED, 2x6 WDRED 4x4 wdred.
Plus another 4x4 wdreds
As qnap uses “traditional” raid 5 i am going to waste 2 or more tb if I mix this lot up.
Is there an alternative. Does qnap have an SHR ?
And can i put different sized (and how many) SSD to use as cache in the top 4 bays . I have 2x100 , 1x128 and 1x60gb
QNAP has Storage Pools.
You can add storage pools.
At this point, I really do need to ask either @dane22 or @MwC_Trexx .
I went old-school with a static volume. The only expansion I set my self up for was inode size adjustment. I set the initial inode size to allow me to grow to 128 TB in the array. That means I can go up to 8x 16TB drives before I need to rebuild it and that’s a LONG way off. I have 40TB built now.
@spikemixture said:
ATM from what I see there is no 32gb option for the 1277 it goes from 16 to 64gb
and cost an extra US$1100 ! WT?And from what I have seen the i7-7700 is in the T (thunderbolt) versions
I always buy the lowest QNAP memory amount possible and do my own memory upgrades, way cheaper.
Just as a reference, I picked up a Kingston 2666Mhz 32GB DIMM kit for my TS-877 for $300 on sale. Could have gone to 64GB for $600.
Since you’re sharing memory suggestions? Good, Fast, RAM. Corsair style
64 GB for the TVS-1282-i7 ?
(to be upgraded to KabyLake when I get bold enough to take the cooler off)
@spikemixture said:
I have decided on the 1280 if I can get the i7-7700.
If not I am getting the 1277 will worry about the ram later.
I have 1815 and 1817 which one will likely be sold.I have 2x10 , 2x 8 ,2x6 ironwolf,
4x8 WD RED, 2x6 WDRED 4x4 wdred.
Plus another 4x4 wdredsAs qnap uses “traditional” raid 5 i am going to waste 2 or more tb if I mix this lot up.
Is there an alternative. Does qnap have an SHR ?And can i put different sized (and how many) SSD to use as cache in the top 4 bays . I have 2x100 , 1x128 and 1x60gb
7th Gen i7’s only are available on the T3 models, 6th Gen on the non-T3.
No QNAP does not have SHR. They have storage pools (comprised of 1 or more raid-sets) and out of those pools you carve volumes (where your data actually lives)
See this article for a visual view: How to use QNAP Flexible Volume Management? | QNAP
So for example, you could create a raid-5 set of your 2x8 IW & your 4x8 RED drives (6 drives) and get ~40TB (not really as the 8TB aren’t really 8TB). So you can create raid-sets of similar size drives (don’t have to be same brand) but you may see some perf issues between say a 5400 & 7200 drives.
Now if you mix sizes, say 6TB/8TB/10TB iron wolf’s together in a RAID-5, the lowest value wins until they are all the same size… so 6TB x 6 until you upgraded say the 6TB to 10TB. They it would be 8TB x 6 (until all were 10’s).
The other option is to do raid-1 on the 2x6tb , but you lose 6TB of space.
SSD caching is generally only useful for heavy random small i/o usage. I also wouldn’t use any SSD with data that you care about without running at a minimum RAID-1 if not Raid-5. The other option is to leverage Qnap’s QTier where it does some caching for random burst usage, but mainly puts heavily used data blocks (based on usage or ‘hints from you’) into SSD. When the data cools off, it moves it back to HDD.
@MwC_Trexx said:
7th Gen i7’s only are available on the T3 models, 6th Gen on the non-T3.
The qnap website says different
TVS-1282 | Hardware Specs | QNAP or
https://www.qnap.com/en/product/tvs-1282/specs/hardware/TVS-1282-i7-32G-450W.pdf
And I have been ASSURED by my retailer - It is being ordered from Qnap so dunno if US or Taiwan (I live in the Philippines)
That I will be getting the i7 7700.
I will be expecting a substantial Discount if it comes with the 6770
And I will be pissed off as I would have gone with the 1277 had the 1280 come with the 6th gen CPU !!
And thanks for storage suggestions
Looks like they may have updated the non-T3 models and I wasn’t paying attention
I spoke with QNAP directly as well.
Yes, everything is i7-7700 now. It’s been in QTS since the first was introduced and is supported on all our units.
Their only caution is: “If you change the CPU, you void any existing warranty” (standard disclaimer). In the same breath, I was told AS-5 is still the compound to use for those doing the job
@ChuckPA said:
@MwC_TrexxSince you’re sharing memory suggestions?
Good, Fast, RAM. Corsair style
64 GB for the TVS-1282-i7 ?
(to be upgraded to KabyLake when I get bold enough to take the cooler off)
For QNAPs I have been using mostly the Kingston HyperX family as of late. I tried another brand with my Ryzen box and it didn’t work as well. Kingston seems to have good CL numbers for the price too.
For PC’s and such in the past I also used Crucial a lot which is owned by Micron, so nice there that they make still their own memory chips.
That’s what I think too. HyperX has been good to me in the Synology.
The big question with going 64 GB when upgrading CPU is can I afford the RAM?
This actually looks reasonable
Forgive the offsite ref: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-HyperX-64-HX421C14FBK4/dp/B01D8U2A4C $775 (compared to the $1200 previously seen)
Kingston Technology HyperX FURY Black 64 GB Kit CL15 DIMM DDR4 2400 MT/s Internal Memory (HX424C15FBK4/64)
6700 & 7700 compatible? (looks it to me)
maybe even 8700? 
@ChuckPA said:
This actually looks reasonableForgive the offsite ref: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-HyperX-64-HX421C14FBK4/dp/B01D8U2A4C $775 (compared to the $1200 previously seen)
Kingston Technology HyperX FURY Black 64 GB Kit CL15 DIMM DDR4 2400 MT/s Internal Memory (HX424C15FBK4/64)6700 & 7700 compatible? (looks it to me)
maybe even 8700?
That’s not bad as DDR 4 seems to have been going up again lately. When I got mine locally for my Ryzen box, I scored a 32GB (2x16) kit of 2666 for $300 on a sale which I was very happy about.
And for those who need even MORE storage, the TS-1677x is unveiled (and it comes in BLACK):
cough cough >:)
that’s good enough spec for i7-6700 and i7-7700 and i7-8700 should I opt to push my luck in the 1282?
@MwC_Trexx That 16 bay comes in the Intel too It’s missing ONE thing. USB 3.1 expansion to a TX-800a 
@ChuckPA said:
@MwC_Trexx That 16 bay comes in the Intel tooIt’s missing ONE thing. USB 3.1 expansion to a TX-800a
Why would I want that when I get get a 12Gb SAS card for REAL expansion throughput. 
@ChuckPA said:
cough cough >:)that’s good enough spec for i7-6700 and i7-7700 and i7-8700 should I opt to push my luck in the 1282?
Most CPU’s, their “Memory Speed” is DIMM config dependent. So more/higher density DIMMs = lower memory speed.
See this as an example:
I see you have already purchased but I went through this same decision trying to decide which is the better processor. I opted for the TS-1277 with the extra cores and 64GB of RAM.
This system has been doing great. The primary function is my PMS and it streams 4k HDR without any issue. I also host Teamspeak, Windows VMs and a couple of game servers too. I do not notice any lag and have the resources to give my VMs enough cores and RAM so they function very well.
I only put in 4 10TB drives and a couple of SSDs for cache. I just upgraded to a 5th drive and it is migrating now. Eventually I will add more drives and cache until I max out the box, but am in no hurry. The only item left I have to consider is do I want to add a video card? The 1060 GTX cards are cheap and it will benefit PLEX if it has to transcode and the VMs.
Has anyone added a video card and have you noticed any improvement?
Sorry for the bump but I have a question for Chuck. Did you ever end up going with an expansion GPU in your TVS-1282?
