@SteveMcNally said:
@Terry Cinemas said:
Wait for project Scorpio. Don’t get the new x1s. It’s a waste… Scorpio is worth the buy.I’m getting the S and I don’t even have 4K. I need an Xbox for the projector in the basement, may as well get the new one…
True and if you are a Kinect kind of person, you should be able to finally extend it.
@mikeburroughs1 said:
@hatflix said:
@mikeburroughs1 said:
Thankfully Plex has until August to make this happen if it doesn’t already work. Here’s hoping!Where are you getting those speeds? I’m in marietta, but not naive enough to think I can get those speeds. Jealous!
The Plex server with that connection is in a data center and not in my house. That said, I can’t wait for Google Fiber to come to Atlanta so I can get that kind of speed on my home box. I think parts of Marietta are coming as well, and AT&T already has GigaPower gigabit internet and Comcast has a 2 gig set up but has priced insanely.
Might I ask what the colocation costs are?
I am hoping that he XBONE S + plex will deliver HD/ATMOS audio passthrough.
If I tap my heels three times and say “theres no place like atmos”…
I’m primarily interested in the Xbox One S for the 4k Ultra HD Blu-ray capability. Plex in UHD would be a nice bonus. Plenty people already got their preorders, so reports should pop up soon enough.
edit:
Found an article which mentions the Plex startup time on the Xbox One S. Which means the Plex App already runs on the One S, just not optimized for it yet (very likely no UHD).
We Compared the Xbox One to the Xbox One S. Below are the results:
Plex:
Slim: 8.70 seconds
Original: 8.52 seconds
https://inthegame.nl/breaking-inthegame-xbox-one-s/
@hatflix said:
@stphnwaikari said:
im looking forward to seeing what plex will do with this. ill be getting me a 2TB version on release day and currently saving for a 65" 4K TV.Here’s one for you:
I was going to make the jump, all in to 4k soon, just whenever it felt right. Guess what put the brakes on that.
I do not want to open up the wall again right now to put a new high speed HDMI cable in. I will one day, but just more work that I want to do right now! Foiled by a damn cable!
Maybe 10.2Gbps will be enough and I can use what’s there, but the research hurts my head!
I just stumbled upon this. The standard does not apply to the cables! Old cables will work just fine (as long as the cable is not defective). The wiring in the cables is identical. Don’t be fooled…
@yvizel said:
@hatflix said:
@stphnwaikari said:
im looking forward to seeing what plex will do with this. ill be getting me a 2TB version on release day and currently saving for a 65" 4K TV.Here’s one for you:
I was going to make the jump, all in to 4k soon, just whenever it felt right. Guess what put the brakes on that.
I do not want to open up the wall again right now to put a new high speed HDMI cable in. I will one day, but just more work that I want to do right now! Foiled by a damn cable!
Maybe 10.2Gbps will be enough and I can use what’s there, but the research hurts my head!
I just stumbled upon this. The standard does not apply to the cables! Old cables will work just fine (as long as the cable is not defective). The wiring in the cables is identical. Don’t be fooled…
Thanks for the info!!!
UHD H.264 8-bit doesn’t work currently (@Moussa is in the process of acquiring from Microsoft whether this is a decoder limitation), but UHD H.265 8-bit and 10-bit works just fine.
@emma24xia said:
UHD H.264 8-bit doesn’t work currently (@Moussa is in the process of acquiring from Microsoft whether this is a decoder limitation), but UHD H.265 8-bit and 10-bit works just fine.
I just picked up a 4K TV a week ago and naturally I decided to test some of my 4K files with the Xbox One S (and also with the TV’s Plex app - a Samsung UE55KS7000) - with varying success (some work, some don’t…), though I’ve got a bunch of my own 4K content I’ve made and exported from Premiere Pro, and those don’t work. The TV plays them, but stutters a lot (I suspect due to the fact they’re quite high bitrare - 100Mbit each), and the Xbox One S does the same thing. They’re 100Mb/s 30fps 4K H.264, BT.709, AAC audio, mp4 container.
I’m curious - if the Xbox One S can play back H.265 4K, why not transcode my H264 files to H265 files? Surely that would be an option?
@williamhook@gmail.com said:
I’m curious - if the Xbox One S can play back H.265 4K, why not transcode my H264 files to H265 files? Surely that would be an option?
Your server by your own description is already lagging when converting 2160p H.264 to 1080p H.264. You incorrectly assume that this is caused by the high bitrate. But it’s actually the transcoding taking place. Your server is too slow.
To concert your Premiere stuff to 1080p H.265 or 2160p H.265 and have a visual improvement at the same bitrate over H. 264 you’d need even more (like 3 times more) server power.
@Wiidesire said:
@williamhook@gmail.com said:
I’m curious - if the Xbox One S can play back H.265 4K, why not transcode my H264 files to H265 files? Surely that would be an option?
Your server by your own description is already lagging when converting 2160p H.264 to 1080p H.264. You incorrectly assume that this is caused by the high bitrate. But it’s actually the transcoding taking place. Your server is too slow.
To concert your Premiere stuff to 1080p H.265 or 2160p H.265 and have a visual improvement at the same bitrate over H. 264 you’d need even more (like 3 times more) server power.
I’m about 90% sure it’s the network at fault rather than the (beefy) Plex server - for example, the TV only has a 100Mbit ethernet connection so in theory, I’m saturating the connection completely.
If I play the files back with Plex transcoding them to 1080p, there’s no stuttering. I’d be curious to know if Plex offered a lower bitrate 4K option, if that would work a little better? When I play back my 100Mbit files, in Plex, I can only see the option to stream at 100Mbit 4K rather than, say, 80, 60, or 40Mbit. Seems odd that we can pick a lower bitrate for 1080p but not 4K?
@William_TM said:
I’m curious - if the Xbox One S can play back H.265 4K, why not transcode my H264 files to H265 files? Surely that would be an option?
No, it’s not an option. Plex uses HLS for streaming to the Xbox One H265 is currently not a part of the HLS standard so Plex has to use H264. Because the Xbox One has trouble with 4K videos in H264 the server then has transcode down to 1080p.
@jmckee said:
@William_TM said:
I’m curious - if the Xbox One S can play back H.265 4K, why not transcode my H264 files to H265 files? Surely that would be an option?No, it’s not an option. Plex uses HLS for streaming to the Xbox One H265 is currently not a part of the HLS standard so Plex has to use H264. Because the Xbox One has trouble with 4K videos in H264 the server then has transcode down to 1080p.
@jmckee said:
@William_TM said:
I’m curious - if the Xbox One S can play back H.265 4K, why not transcode my H264 files to H265 files? Surely that would be an option?No, it’s not an option. Plex uses HLS for streaming to the Xbox One H265 is currently not a part of the HLS standard so Plex has to use H264. Because the Xbox One has trouble with 4K videos in H264 the server then has transcode down to 1080p.
The only reason for Xbox to fall back to H264 transcoding is audio that can’t be played back. Then the whole stream has to be converted because of that HLS standard issue. Other codecs will direct stream video and transcode audio, but not in that case.
@justinglock40 said:
The only reason for Xbox to fall back to H264 transcoding is audio that can’t be played back. Then the whole stream has to be converted because of that HLS standard issue. Other codecs will direct stream video and transcode audio, but not in that case.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at. My response was a direct response to why Plex can’t convert to HEVC as a transcoding format to get around the H264 4K issue. Your screen shot shows a file direct playing which isn’t transcoded and using an HLS stream. It is treated exactly as a file transfer with the Xbox One’s media player accessing the original file.
Just for the record, not all other codecs will always direct stream video for bad audio. Specifically 4K H264 video needs to get transcoded down to 1080p because of the 4K H264 issue present on the Xbox One. Which is what you responded to.
