Edit: Well, that was easy. It is indeed the anamorphic flag, which I believe is what J_McKee was pointing out, if I change the anamorphic setting in handbrake to "none" it direct streams the video and audio. So I guess that answers that part of the question, but the next would be "why"?
Sorry, that was what I was trying to point out. The limitations in the profile are listed in a transcode profile. Which means they are only checked on a direct stream or transcode. If the file direct plays then they are ignored as the limitations are only listed for a transcoded file not a direct play profile.
This is of course still just a guess because I don't have access to the MDE code, but it follows the normal pattern for other apps.
Yes, but is it not odd that it does not matter if anamorphic is set on the MP4 and it will still direct play. But instead of direct streaming an mkv file with anamorphic set it will transcode?
Yes, but is it not odd that it does not matter if anamorphic is set on the MP4 and it will still direct play. But instead of direct streaming an mkv file with anamorphic set it will transcode?
Going to take a stab and say this must be something to do with something J_McKee said in another thread.
And it should be repackaging to mpegts on the fly since there is a lot of problems with trying to goto mp4 on the fly.
I was under the impression it was remuxing to mp4, but its going to mpegts instead, maybe this doesn't support the anamorphic flag where as the actual mp4 container would?
Yes, but is it not odd that it does not matter if anamorphic is set on the MP4 and it will still direct play. But instead of direct streaming an mkv file with anamorphic set it will transcode?
I don't believe the player itself has problems with anamorphic. I think it has more to do with preventing the stretched content from popping out of the transcoder when a/v is passed through for streaming/transcoding.
But yes, MP4's that can direct play don't hit those limitations, they only occur if the file is passed through the transcoder for streaming/transcoding. And even though the video stream should be compatible I think the limitation is more for consistent results than a lack of support for anamorphic.
Going to take a stab and say this must be something to do with something J_McKee said in another thread.
I was under the impression it was remuxing to mp4, but its going to mpegts instead, maybe this doesn't support the anamorphic flag where as the actual mp4 container would?
I believe that it has more to do with Plex wanting consistent results as a few versions back there used to be very inconsistent results from anamorphic content going through the transcoder.
As some of you have found out, the reason for some MKVs to be transcoded is due to them being anamorphic. When we originally tested the video playback capabilities of the Xbox One, we found a number of issues around playing this type of content when being streamed via Http Live Streaming. That was the main reason that we actively disabled it on launch. However, the playback capabilities of the device have improved, as well as a number of bug fixes being included in the firmware updates. We'll look to retest these capabilities to see if we can remove any of the limitations. We do tend to edge on the side of caution though, our users have a wide range of media formats / types, all of which can be subtly different.
As some of you have found out, the reason for some MKVs to be transcoded is due to them being anamorphic. When we originally tested the video playback capabilities of the Xbox One, we found a number of issues around playing this type of content when being streamed via Http Live Streaming. That was the main reason that we actively disabled it on launch. However, the playback capabilities of the device have improved, as well as a number of bug fixes being included in the firmware updates. We'll look to retest these capabilities to see if we can remove any of the limitations. We do tend to edge on the side of caution though, our users have a wide range of media formats / types, all of which can be subtly different.
Ian
I always thought you guys just flipped a coin to see if you should enable a capability or not...
I always thought you guys just flipped a coin to see if you should enable a capability or not...
LOL, thanks!
Since i'm based in the UK, and my entire DVD collection (which i've ripped) is anamorphic, it was in fact something I was keen to test. It wouldn't surprise me if the device handled MP4 anamorphic content but still not via HTTP Live Streaming, but definitely worth a retest.
Since i'm based in the UK, and my entire DVD collection (which i've ripped) is anamorphic, it was in fact something I was keen to test. It wouldn't surprise me if the device handled MP4 anamorphic content but still not via HTTP Live Streaming, but definitely worth a retest.
Ian
Thanks for weighing in IanB!, my DVD collection is pretty much all anamorphic as well. Like I said, it's not something that's actually even causing any issues for me, but the less work the server has to do the better. :)
