[Major Bug] Plex fails to catalog all music singles

This seems to be the same problem i have with compilation albums. It drives me to distraction. A compilation album is made up from songs that have different contributing artists. This information is just lost.

it makes finding music difficult, and you have to fudge the metadata. just to make it work / look acceptable.

years of trying to get a sensible solution.

much sadness

Compilations? Compilations?

Here is my precious ‘Rock And Roll Doctor’ tribute to Lowell George (along with my most favorite thing in the whole world; Popular Tracks - we’ll get back to that) as it sits in my Little Feat collection - because I put it there. Lowell George was Little Feat. It seemed only natural to have a tribute album performed by Giants of the industry for him to be included in with Little Feat. I dunno
 maybe it’s just me.

Here are the various artists as they appear on this treasured article:

Here is what a search produces when looking for
 say
 ‘Taj Mahal’:

And finally here is how I made it happen in 2 minutes with MP3Tag:

Now, really
 if someone can’t get this to work it can only be for a couple of reasons:

  1. they just need a hand with the method - always willing to help.
  2. they are sure their way is the only way and refuse to capitulate.

Now, pick one.

:slight_smile:

@tphoney said:
A compilation album is made up from songs that have different contributing artists. This information is just lost.

Not true.

it makes finding music difficult, and you have to fudge the metadata. just to make it work / look acceptable.

You have to make the metadata correctly. No fudging necessary.
Set the ‘AlbumArtist’ to the artists name under which the album shall appear.
Set the ‘Artist’ to the name of the artist which shall appear on the particular track.

Works. See above. AlbumArtist is set to ‘Genesis’ in this example.

@OttoKerner said:
Works. See above. AlbumArtist is set to ‘Genesis’ in this example.

Two rights make it right.

:slight_smile:

@FEA5T said:
I am not referring specifically to Record singles, but rather, modern music. None of the artists I listen to make albums anymore. As an example. Almost all hits from Justin Bieber are singles before they ever appear on an album.

That’s funny. The music industry’s been releasing singles ahead of albums since the beginning of modern recorded music. In fact, at first, studio albums didn’t exist and the albums that were released were a sort of greatest hits compilation with a few other tracks thrown in. Your experience has nothing to do with modern music.

@FEA5T said:
Does plex really expect all users to have the knowledge/capability to tag these common tracks with the correct album?

I can’t think of any music store with a download service where the tracks aren’t already tagged. If you’re talking about pirated music you got from somewhere else, then yes, PLEX expects you to tag them with the correct info.

shakes head in bewilderment

@srewobwj

That’s funny. The music industry’s been releasing singles ahead of albums since the beginning of modern recorded music. In fact, at first, studio albums didn’t exist and the albums that were released were a sort of greatest hits compilation with a few other tracks thrown in. Your experience has nothing to do with modern music.

You are proving my point, I know this. The difference now is that singles are released electronically.

I can’t think of any music store with a download service where the tracks aren’t already tagged.

My point isn’t that they aren’t tagged. My point is that they ARE tagged, PROPERLY, and still don’t have an Album

Look: Soundcloud? Bandcamp? Etc there are so many more? Do I even need to list more?

How about a free download song on soundcloud to prove my point
feel free to inspect the tags!

How can a music service tag a single with an album, if the single doesn’t have an album?

It’s 2017. Time to get with it. Not all music has, or is tagged with an album. And music that does not have an album should not be required to be tagged with one “just because other people are doing it”. Not everyone is doing it, because it’s WRONG.

@FEA5T said:
It’s 2017. Time to get with it. Not all music has, or is tagged with an album. And music that does not have an album should not be required to be tagged with one “just because other people are doing it”. Not everyone is doing it, because it’s WRONG.

Let us know in 2019 how that’s been working out for ya. Odds are that even if it’s WRONG, Plex will still be doing it that way especially if history is any indication of future events.

Just wondered if there yet a fix for this bug in Plex?
I cant currently search artist tracks if they are in Various artists

@kevin_watt1 said:
I cant currently search artist tracks if they are in Various artists

You can search them
but you can’t browse them.

If you use the ‘search’ bar in Plex Web for instance, you can find tracks which are only available on ‘Various Artists’ albums. Of course you need to know what you are searchiong for and at least remember a part of their name or the name of track artist.

Lets be real here, If I search for an artist and choose the artist view, it should list all albums their material appear on, both dedicated albums and compilations.

Plex does NOT do the latter. It is a HUGE shortcoming. There is no reason that artist view doesn’t pick up these various artist compilations. NONE.

It’s an OR in a database SELECT statement with an ORDER BY. Maybe a UNION to make the sort work a bit better, but I’m telling you, I can code this in about 5 minutes.

Plex please fix this.

Artists on compilation albums (Various Artists album artist tag, with correct artist tag) are not listed as artists in the Plex Artist library. Depending on how much of your library is made up of compilations you could be missing many many artists when browsing the list.

The “Artist” tag should used when browse artists, and the “album artists” tag should be used when browsing albums.

Fixing that will also fix the “For every random single I have a corresponding album is forced onto my albums list”. If the artist tag is used properly you could create one giant Various Artist “Singles” album with all your random one off tracks with the correct artist tag and only that one album would display in albums but under individual artists you would see the track listed as coming from that compilation “singles album”.

Or if the “Album” tag is blank then don’t list it as [unknown album] in albums, just leave it off or give us an option to hide unknown albums.

After years of using Kodi I am working with Plex for two weeks now. Finally all my media on a new nas and a great program to finally be able to enjoy all of it on all my equipment. I am seriously thinking about registering for a Plex Pass, but want to be sure everything works like a charm. My movies, tv-shows, documentaries and even Dutch cabaret shows are amazing. I am a great fan! But then I started to enter my music collection.

I am a kind of rare person perhaps, but 95% of my collection of 100s of CD’s (meanwhile all ripped and ready to use in Plex) are compilation cd’s. Might have something to do with that I was a dj for a long time. But even as a child I was not that interested either in artist cd’s.

I started with two separate libraries for music. One for artist cd’s and one for compilation cd’s. Not sure that was the right choice, but can change that of course. But then I entered the first 20 compilation albums. The music was all over the place! Even though all my music is tagged in a miniscule way. A lot of my albums contain 2 or more cd’s. Some albums were put together, most of them were not and got a separate album for all the cd’s. There also was one which had an album containing two of the four cd’s and two separate cd’s for the third and forth album. Although all my albums are tagged Various Artists, some songs ended up under unknown, Artist, Various and a few more. Even songs from albums that are recognised. Then 4 songs are under Various in the right album (but unable to play) and the rest of the songs are under Various Albums in the same, but clearly seen as a different) album (being able to play), wich contains again a 2nd album with the same name as cd#2. Really, it was a mess and with only 20 albums. I have 100s to go


Due to remarks in this thread I started to enter the same names in all the albums and change everything to Various Artists. Now within a few minutes at least all the albums are in the same spot and most of them list all the title’s of that album in one long row. I have problems with one or two, but I’ll look into that. Still learning! All artists and titles are good and searchable.

Instead of choosing for artist but album view for my compilation abums, it presents me now with a great overview of the albums. I was afraid that I had to click on various artists all the time. I think the spreading between artist cd’s and collection cd’s was a wise one. Otherwise I will end up with 40 artists and 95% of my collection under Various Artists.

But indeed, I can already tell that it will be a huge problem for me not to be able to get an overview of a single artist. I am sure that there are lots of artists from who I have almost all songs, but spread over for instance 20 compilation albums with Various Artists. In all my tags I put in great effort to get all artists written in the same way so that in ots or other program’s it will be searchable and that leads to a list from that artist. Ots is great to play with, but in my house I want the music presented differently and available on all players, like the movies. But in Plex I can only use the search function and see the results there. Pressing enter will give me all the artwork of the albums which contain a track of that artist, without knowing which song is in which album. That might be doable with my few albums inserted now, but when all are in place, that is not the way to go. The information is clearly to grab so I am not sure too why this is not a possibility.

It will be a deal-breaker for me if there is no way of getting an overview per artist.

I just think about it. This will be even a step further, but would be great. When you click on a movie, you get an overview of actors. Clicking on one gives you an overview of all the movies and series you have in which that actor plays a role. It would be so great when I can click on a compilation cd and perhaps play it. Then one of the artist makes me happy and I want to play some more songs of that artist instead of continuing with the compilation cd. If clicking on the artist name would present the (missing) list with all tracks of that artist
 that would be a function that might be loved by a lot of people.

I’ll be figuring out the program some more in the next weeks. It’s here to say for movies and series. Hopefully too for the music.

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@JuiceWSA It is now 2019. I have imported all of my albums correctly, fixed them up, and now I am baffled as to how to handle thousands of singles and EPs I have laying around.

Porter Robinson’s & Madeon’s Shelter EP has two artists. It should appear under both Porter Robinson and Madeon when looking at their artist profiles. I should not have a new artist called “Porter Robinson & Madeon” in my library. They’re unlikely to publish more EPs together any time soon.

This is highly annoying, especially knowing that inside that singles folder I have some remixes made by two artists of a song that’s a collaboration of three other artists.

@anon18523487 Here’s my concrete set of proposals from someone with fresh eyes on the problem, since you’ve requested something a bit more actionable:

  1. Artist and AlbumArtist should be treated as, at the very least, comma-separated. Artist 1, Artist 2, Artist 3 - Song Name should appear in all three artist’s discographies.
  2. I should be able to tag artists inside of track names as well, not just artist tags. Artist 1 - Song Title (feat. Jon Doe), Artist 1 - Song Title (Jon Doe Remix), and Artist 1 - Song Title (Cover by Jon Doe) should all be associated with both Jon Doe and Artist 1 and be a click or two away when I’m looking at their respective pages.
  3. Treat everything that has no album tag as a single, instead of making me have to create a new album called “Singles” for every artist in my collection. This could be as simple as putting “(no album)” as an album when looking at artist’s page.
  4. Somewhere in the settings, I should be able to enable this: treat every album that has 1-2 songs as a “Single”, 3-7 songs as an “EP”, and everything above as an “Album”. They should be categorized in that way when I open the artist page.

I believe all four of these are actionable, and would improve the versatility of music libraries in Plex quite a bit.

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