Plex Cloud questions

@DTrace said:
Cost ??? Once it is out of beta how much will it cost ?

Sees like just amazon drive and plex pass

@braintumor said:
I believe there is a lot of potential for Plex Cloud and the pricing is very fair! I usually have to replace a failing disk in my 8-bay NAS every 1-2 years at US$ 250 a disk, compared to that the cost of $60 per year is quite a bargain.

I also have some questions…

  1. Is there a maximum file size limitation for Plex cloud? Amazon drive limits at 2GB per file. Most of my movies are between 5 and 20GB.

The largest file I’ve pushed to ACD is about 48GB

  1. Obviously everything will be transcoded at Amazon Drive when streamed to the client to allow for the most efficient bandwidth usage. But what is the resolution/quality we can expect? Is it interesting for users that have a high bitrate library?

Plex Cloud will attempt to DIRECT PLAY everything as along as your bandwidth (and Amazon’s) supports it.

@Penn378 said:
Instead of hooking up plex cloud to amazon drive, can I hook it up to a NAS on my home network? I have high-speed broadband internet that is always on.

Why would you want it to? I believe the point of the service is to make it easier for folks that don’t want to manage their own PMS at home with NAS’s and other trinkets like HTPC’s etc…

If I didn’t know any better I would think Plex is trying dabble in a bit of everything so they have a solution for everyone.

Before Plex Cloud, Plex really only targeted those of us that were techy enough to manage setting up a NAS for large libraries or a simple PMS with smaller local libraries on an external or local drive.

Plex Cloud offers a solution for those that are comfortable with how to get the media on their computer but don’t want to mess with the hassle of having a PMS and/or NAS. I would think that if you knew how to rip or “obtain” your media in the first place you would be savvy enough to run your PMS and/or NAS.

The way the cord cutting experience is going companies are trying to find easier and easier ways to get into the action. No matter how hard I try and show them how easy it is, I cannot get my in-laws to cut the cord because they don’t want to mess with multiple apps or boxes. They want to turn their TV on and use their DirecTV remote and watch and record. They don’t mind paying for this simplicity.

I’m interested in the playback rate via various download speeds as well as what Amazon thinks of multiple TB’s of data being stored and the fact that 98% of them are movies/TV Shows that it’s not clear on they were “obtained”.

@braintumor said:

  1. Is there a maximum file size limitation for Plex cloud? Amazon drive limits at 2GB per file. Most of my movies are between 5 and 20GB.
    Looking forward…

The 2GB file size limit on amazon drive is only if you’re uploading the file through their web interface. If you’re using the desktop application, the file size is unlimited.

@hthighway said:
The largest file I’ve pushed to ACD is about 48GB

Plex Cloud will attempt to DIRECT PLAY everything as along as your bandwidth (and Amazon’s) supports it.

Wow, that sounds awesome (my bandwidth shouldn’t be the issue), but I don’t want to come over as skeptic, but it all sounds to good to be true for $60 per year.
No matter how I try to calculate this, but in my case Amazon will lose $$$ and I can’t believe that the service (and terms and conditions) in the long-term will stay like this if the price will not increase.

Adding to my question of future proof regarding quality…

I can also predict a huge increase in library sharing with plex cloud, which can negatively affect the service in the future.

@ASFx said:
The 2GB file size limit on amazon drive is only if you’re uploading the file through their web interface. If you’re using the desktop application, the file size is unlimited.

Ok thanks, that clears it up…

@mcrommert said:

@DTrace said:
Cost ??? Once it is out of beta how much will it cost ?

Sees like just amazon drive and plex pass

Colour me sceptical of this price point, I’m expecting a cloud-based server to be an additional monthly subscription charge on top of Plex Pass, personally… I suspect I’m the ideal target audience for this service though - I already back up my Plex library media files to Amazon Drive, so I suspect if I get picked for the beta I could be up and running in a few minutes flat with a full library!

I am considering running a book on how long it takes to bankrupt Plex with AWS/Azure/GCE CPU bills for transcoding though, given anything with subtitles generally forces a transcode on most official Plex clients! Any takers ? :slight_smile:

Seriously though, I am looking forward to seeing this in operation very much, and applaud Plex’s forward looking stance on this.

@hspencer said:

Colour me sceptical of this price point, I’m expecting a cloud-based server to be an additional monthly subscription charge on top of Plex Pass, personally… I suspect I’m the ideal target audience for this service though - I already back up my Plex library media files to Amazon Drive, so I suspect if I get picked for the beta I could be up and running in a few minutes flat with a full library!

I agree. I think most of us would much rather pay a reasonable monthly or annual fee for Plex Cloud instead of needing to spend $2000+ on a proper NAS/QNAP, powerful enough to transcode, etc… I mean even if we had to pay $99/yr for plex cloud, it would take 20+ years before it cost as much as a powerful NAS/QNAP

Steam quality is a concern. I can stream a lot of content in original format and bitrate because I’m on a gigabit network. But with cloud I’m limited to my ISP 200MB/s downstream. How will this impact video quality and buffering times?

200 MB/s downstream… Every file you get will be a direct stream - you have nothing to worry about!

@void.pointer said:
But with cloud I’m limited to my ISP 200MB/s downstream. How will this impact video quality and buffering times?

That’s going to depend on the media you’re streaming.

What about this limitation? Amazon Drive streaming is not available for videos longer than 20 minutes or larger than 2 GB, but these can be stored in Amazon Drive for you to download and watch offline.

I have a question on the Media Uploading. Do I just login using the desktop app and recreate my Library within the cloud? Same folder structure and file name scheme? Right now the Sync to Cloud feature in the Plex client sticks everything in its own folder renames the files according to some metadata tag.

This is so cool. Thanks Plex for looking into offering this!!!

Another question for the FAQ: Does AWS Cloud Drive count MKV files as video files. AWS Cloud Drive for $60 a year says all photos and videos. But they dont’ mention MKV’s as video files

Seriously going to be watching this development closely. This has so much potential!

Another question for anyone out there. Is there a Linux Amazon Drive Client? I use Linux primarily on my Plex Server, so it’d be helpful to have upload from Linux automatically.

My mind is racing with the possibilities!

@bleachjt said:
What about this limitation? Amazon Drive streaming is not available for videos longer than 20 minutes or larger than 2 GB, but these can be stored in Amazon Drive for you to download and watch offline.

For companies using the Amazon API, which is what Plex is doing, there is no 20 minute limitation
And the 2BG limit is only for the Amazon web client.

@rossdargan said:
200 MB/s downstream… Every file you get will be a direct stream - you have nothing to worry about!

What if a user say only has 7mbps coming into the house. This probably doesn’t sound like that great of an option at this point. Fiber is a year or two out for us but it’s coming so I can’t wait.

@Budwyzer said:
I have a question on the Media Uploading. Do I just login using the desktop app and recreate my Library within the cloud? Same folder structure and file name scheme?

Yes

@woodsdog said:
This is so cool. Thanks Plex for looking into offering this!!!

Another question for the FAQ: Does AWS Cloud Drive count MKV files as video files. AWS Cloud Drive for $60 a year says all photos and videos. But they dont’ mention MKV’s as video files

yes MKV is supported

Another question for anyone out there. Is there a Linux Amazon Drive Client? I use Linux primarily on my Plex Server, so it’d be helpful to have upload from Linux automatically.

Take a look at rclone.org, that is what I use as I’m on linux as well

What about the safety in use of Scene Movies?

@woodsdog said:
Another question for anyone out there. Is there a Linux Amazon Drive Client? I use Linux primarily on my Plex Server, so it’d be helpful to have upload from Linux automatically.

I use GitHub - yadayada/acd_cli: An unmaintained command line interface and FUSE filesystem for Amazon (Cloud) Drive