About Plex Cloud Amazon drive And what next ?

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Hello,
What i thought just happen from what we get from the plex cloud team ,
Here what just i think happen with amazon drive <
Plex cloud team they know the 3 month trails coming to end
So they is worrying about some user asking for refund for what they pay in amazon drive ,
In the email they said
Greetings from the Plex Cloud team, A few weeks ago we shared with you that we’ve had challenges integrating Amazon Drive as a storage option for Plex Cloud. The team has worked tirelessly to address these issues, improve the scalability and performance of our infrastructure, and to expand storage options by introducing support for Google Drive, Dropbox, and Microsoft OneDrive, all of which are working great. Unfortunately, the challenges with Amazon Drive have proven insurmountable at this time, so we have decided to remove Amazon Drive as a storage option for Plex Cloud for the foreseeable future. Current beta users with a linked Amazon Drive account will no longer be able to use Amazon with Plex Cloud after December 31st. If you signed up for an Amazon Drive account specifically to use with Plex Cloud on or after our original announcement, you should still have time to cancel while you are in their 90-day free trial. We realize some of you have uploaded lots of media to Amazon Drive to work with Plex Cloud and the transition to another Cloud storage provider is easier said than done. This was a tough call for us to make, but a necessary one made with our users’ best interests in mind. If you already have content on Amazon Drive, there’s info on options for migrating data to a supported provider in our forum. We look forward to coming out of the beta with multiple popular storage options that provide a simple, seamless, and beautiful Plex experience. Thanks again for your interest in Plex Cloud!

As i said before many people will be sad and angry for amazon drive
And here is why
People have waste a lot of time and money !
Many of us spend money to VPS server to upload file to amazon drive
And Plex idea is to spend more money !!!
They now want us to spend money to move data from amazon to another cloud ! (Really )
Plex Team as much as i love your works i think you need to work on other feature that a lot important then Cloud
Like DVR or any new feature .

As the work on the cloud will take a lot of your time i think its worth more than 1 feature that will have a lot of problem ,Many people advice a lot of people to sign up for unlimited G-Suite it have many cons then pros

1:What if google ban users for have media files
2:if google have problems like amazon drive and there are no fix
3:What if google Change there mind about unlimited !! Just like MS did with Onedrive
4: More expensive 60$ VS 130$ pre year !

At that time people will pay a lot more money than they did now
and people will hate plex for what money they loose !

Please consider to work on other features that not will depend on other service that may change there mind or have problems they cant fix !!

Don’t get me wrong i do like Plex cloud a lot and i want to have the invite ASAP But i am worry if something happen Just like what happen with amazon Drive
And i think you should open the beta to all the people who sign up and here why you should open the beta
You have dump the amazon drive that what made people happy for the cloud and there more cloud service and you need people to test them and give feedback

Please do consider other features rather than depend in one feature that you don’t have control if the cloud service change there mind and consider to give a lot of time on the amazing DVR add support for a lot of hardware and software and add live tv and add what people ask for in features reqest forum

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I understand the disappointment - I signed up for the (90 day trail) Amazon Drive specifically to use with plex. I uploaded all my data - admitedly through a very fast work connection.

However,

  1. Nobody is forcing you to use Plex Cloud
  2. Amazon Drive us very good value for money and I’m keeping it anyway.
  3. Users with VPS systems stil report success with mounting ACD to their VPS and running it that way

I think the options to move data via cloud rather than downloading / uploading is the plex team trying to help. It must have been a tough call to can Amazon drive use.

Sure the team have made some mistakes. While you can never test for ‘real world usage’ I’m surprised some of the ACD issues didn’t crop up during internal testing.
They should cloud it Plex could Alpha rather that beta
And not sure if they annouced cloud to everyone or just plex pass premium members - but it seemed a wide-ranging beta program that perhaps got people too excited.

Still many positives though - we have an amazing plex product to run locally - or indeed your own VPS. We have a team activley developing and adding features - and looking to the cloud. Plex has come a long way since it first started and even since I found it and I’m glad it’s moving the way it is. I think the team still look after the people who have been advocates for years while attracting new users.

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@jowl said:
I understand the disappointment - I signed up for the (90 day trail) Amazon Drive specifically to use with plex. I uploaded all my data - admitedly through a very fast work connection.

However,

  1. Nobody is forcing you to use Plex Cloud
  2. Amazon Drive us very good value for money and I’m keeping it anyway.
  3. Users with VPS systems stil report success with mounting ACD to their VPS and running it that way

I think the options to move data via cloud rather than downloading / uploading is the plex team trying to help. It must have been a tough call to can Amazon drive use.

Sure the team have made some mistakes. While you can never test for ‘real world usage’ I’m surprised some of the ACD issues didn’t crop up during internal testing.
They should cloud it Plex could Alpha rather that beta
And not sure if they annouced cloud to everyone or just plex pass premium members - but it seemed a wide-ranging beta program that perhaps got people too excited.

Still many positives though - we have an amazing plex product to run locally - or indeed your own VPS. We have a team activley developing and adding features - and looking to the cloud. Plex has come a long way since it first started and even since I found it and I’m glad it’s moving the way it is. I think the team still look after the people who have been advocates for years while attracting new users.

As i said i like Plex cloud and i wish i get my invite i am not against it!

What i want from the Plex team is open the beta and give more time on other feature

plex cloud was open for everyone not just plex pass

And about the VPS and mounting amazon drive that was not the idea for plex cloud !

If you like amazon drive keep it and i will keep it too

But what i want to said is plex cloud depend on 3rd party service and plex cant do anything about

I know plex team want to help everyone with moving data from amazon but do they know that people have upload more than 1TB that most of service offer !!

I totally support plex team what amazing work they did already

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As i wrote in a other theard.
“There is a service called hubic.
10TB für 50€ per year.
There is just one limitation.
10 Mbit up and download.
https://hubic.com/de/offers/
Maybe this helps.”

Yes you upload everything again and this will take a lot of time. But this service exists a longer time with these conditions.

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Its still in beta, and we aren’t paying for it, so I say let them iron things out. I already got my moneys worth from my plex pass, I’m happy to see where it goes. Until my plex cloud works I’ll just carry on as I was before, using my own hardware. Its not plex’s fault that nobody else is as cheap as amazon for storage, and if google can’t compete you can’t expect plex to create their own storage cube just for us.

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People does not understand that there is no such thing as a UNLIMITED

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@tek-monkey said:
Its still in beta, and we aren’t paying for it, so I say let them iron things out. I already got my moneys worth from my plex pass, I’m happy to see where it goes. Until my plex cloud works I’ll just carry on as I was before, using my own hardware. Its not plex’s fault that nobody else is as cheap as amazon for storage, and if google can’t compete you can’t expect plex to create their own storage cube just for us.

I know its not plex problem you know why ?
Because they can control amazon
But its plex problem and here why
http://imgur.com/a/L6EQ5
Every ad plex make was with amazon drive logo
And they removed the video that they said unlimited storage with amazon drive logo !!

I want them to work on other things that they fix if it broke !!

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@Anduko said:
As i wrote in a other theard.
“There is a service called hubic.
10TB für 50€ per year.
There is just one limitation.
10 Mbit up and download.
https://hubic.com/de/offers/
Maybe this helps.”

Yes you upload everything again and this will take a lot of time. But this service exists a longer time with these conditions.

That will be good option for people with 1080p media

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@alazabe said:

@tek-monkey said:
Its still in beta, and we aren’t paying for it, so I say let them iron things out. I already got my moneys worth from my plex pass, I’m happy to see where it goes. Until my plex cloud works I’ll just carry on as I was before, using my own hardware. Its not plex’s fault that nobody else is as cheap as amazon for storage, and if google can’t compete you can’t expect plex to create their own storage cube just for us.

I know its not plex problem you know why ?
Because they can control amazon
But its plex problem and here why
http://imgur.com/a/L6EQ5
Every ad plex make was with amazon drive logo
And they removed the video that they said unlimited storage with amazon drive logo !!

I want them to work on other things that they fix if it broke !!

Its in beta. Unless you purchased a plex pass specifically for cloud or an amazon storage account (which you’d still be in your 90 day trial) then I find it hard to think you have any real argument against the plex developers.

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@tek-monkey said:

@alazabe said:

@tek-monkey said:
Its still in beta, and we aren’t paying for it, so I say let them iron things out. I already got my moneys worth from my plex pass, I’m happy to see where it goes. Until my plex cloud works I’ll just carry on as I was before, using my own hardware. Its not plex’s fault that nobody else is as cheap as amazon for storage, and if google can’t compete you can’t expect plex to create their own storage cube just for us.

I know its not plex problem you know why ?
Because they can control amazon
But its plex problem and here why
http://imgur.com/a/L6EQ5
Every ad plex make was with amazon drive logo
And they removed the video that they said unlimited storage with amazon drive logo !!

I want them to work on other things that they fix if it broke !!

Its in beta. Unless you purchased a plex pass specifically for cloud or an amazon storage account (which you’d still be in your 90 day trial) then I find it hard to think you have any real argument against the plex developers.

Nope i dont have any argument against the plex developers And i don’t want or think to have

I bought lifetime plex pass member more than 2 years ago

And even if the 90 days finish i will still be with amazon drive

You really don’t get my point !

My point that they have no control on 3rd cloud service if they change there mind

What i want from them is to but a lot of plex cloud resource in other features

I didn’t attack plex team and i don’t want to do

I just advice them for the best from what i see maybe i am wrong but i try to help them

My idea if they use some of the resource they put on cloud you will get amazing thing like what they did on automatic photo tag,DVR and Kodi add-on

On these features they have full control and they can fix anything

I wish if they just update Plex home theater rather than working on some thing that cant be control !!

I hope you and all members understand what i ask for and what i want

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amazon cloud drive was the best feature of all of them

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@zombu2 said:
amazon cloud drive was the best feature of all of them

I agree for 60$ /year you will get unlimited storage

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i heard that you can get google drive unlimited for 130$ a year i can live with that too but where and how is the question
Even at 100$ a month it wold be an improvement to my power bill which is in the 400-500$ range atm with 1 poweredge and 6 24 bay storages running

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@zombu2 said:
i heard that you can get google drive unlimited for 130$ a year i can live with that too but where and how is the question
Even at 100$ a month it wold be an improvement to my power bill which is in the 400-500$ range atm with 1 poweredge and 6 24 bay storages running

Are you wiling to trust that google will not enforce there policy or change there mind !!
MS did change there mind so don’t be shocked if google did
I know that its a lot cheaper than what you have in home
But just think if they change there mind and you lose your media collection
By the way Cloud service will see it as pirate media and will take it down
I will advice you to wait it at least until plex add encryption to plex cloud at less you will be safe from DMCA I hope<

But the most important is if they change there mind !!

And its up to you to decide but just make a back up to another cloud or in your server in case google change there mind about unlimited

Edit :The unlimited google drive in G-suite for business

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I love how they say “the challenges with Amazon Drive have proven insurmountable at this time”

the challenge with Nvidia shield TV as proven to be ■■■■■■■ Insurmountable since launch lol

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The “duh” heard 'round the world. Plenty of us saw this coming a mile away. $60/year for “unlimited” in a situation where people will try and shove tens of TERABYTES on it? Most of which will probably be pirated, copyright-infringing content with no encryption to hide it from Amazon to notice it violates not only their TOS but the law as well? And then somehow offload all the astronomical transcoding demand to another service (Microsoft’s Azure cloud) with no added cost to the user somehow? Really???

This was never a sane or sustainable business model with any real future. I cannot fathom what person at Plex thought it’d work.

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@sremick said:
The “duh” heard 'round the world. Plenty of us saw this coming a mile away. $60/year for “unlimited” in a situation where people will try and shove tens of TERABYTES on it? Most of which will probably be pirated, copyright-infringing content with no encryption to hide it from Amazon to notice it violates not only their TOS but the law as well? And then somehow offload all the astronomical transcoding demand to another service (Microsoft’s Azure cloud) with no added cost to the user somehow? Really???

This was never a sane or sustainable business model with any real future. I cannot fathom what person at Plex thought it’d work.

I agree
That why I am asking Plex team to put a lot of man power in other features that will work for all of us and don’t depend on 3rd party

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@sremick said:
The “duh” heard 'round the world. Plenty of us saw this coming a mile away. $60/year for “unlimited” in a situation where people will try and shove tens of TERABYTES on it? Most of which will probably be pirated, copyright-infringing content with no encryption to hide it from Amazon to notice it violates not only their TOS but the law as well? And then somehow offload all the astronomical transcoding demand to another service (Microsoft’s Azure cloud) with no added cost to the user somehow? Really???

This was never a sane or sustainable business model with any real future. I cannot fathom what person at Plex thought it’d work.

This post should be all these “cloud” threads in here plex forums. Sticky!

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@sremick said:
The “duh” heard 'round the world. Plenty of us saw this coming a mile away. $60/year for “unlimited” in a situation where people will try and shove tens of TERABYTES on it? Most of which will probably be pirated, copyright-infringing content with no encryption to hide it from Amazon to notice it violates not only their TOS but the law as well? And then somehow offload all the astronomical transcoding demand to another service (Microsoft’s Azure cloud) with no added cost to the user somehow? Really???

This was never a sane or sustainable business model with any real future. I cannot fathom what person at Plex thought it’d work.

Amazon Cloud Drive, outside of Plex Cloud, still is an excellent product and can be used with a standard PMS install. It works just fine for me

And the whole point of the invite only beta was to see how it worked when it was scaled up.

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This is the problem with all cloud services (AKA Itunes etc) you never have total control of your data. The provider can cut you off at their desire. ENTER supermicro 24 bay server, my hardrives, my data, my way. Though it would be nice to be able to index webpages for a “cloud” IE add a movie source of http://www.whatever.com/movies/a