And to complicate matters, I have two NBC stations, 9.4 is solid, 9.1 is not. I started the recordings on 9.4 and what does Plex do? Yep, records on 9.1
@RinjiRyu As I mentioned earlier, I chickened out at the last minute and decided to stick with MythTV. So far, I feel this was the right decision. I have a script running to make symlinks into my PLEX library and PLEX is not handling the episodes well. Although I am using the exact naming style the DVR uses, I had numerous entries already that were globbed together as the same program…and there is no way to force-split them via PLEX. I’d have to manually go in an re-make the symlinks to who-knows-what that PLEX will realize they aren’t the same program.
I just finished nuking all my symlinks and we are reverting to a two system setup again. We literally only use MythTV for the Olympics anymore. The interface really feels old and clunky by comparison, but it is just so much more powerful in its capabilites and it works 100%. I say “RECORD EVERYTHING” and it records every-damn-thing happily cranking out duplicate entries because that’s what I want:
You can see below where I have set “Check duplicate method” to “None”, among other relevant settings:
This make our 10th Olympics with MythTV. So far it looks like we’ll be sticking with it for at least this if not next one too.
Random footnote for anyone who may choose to setup MythTV based on my experience: If you use networked tuners such as HDHomeRun, the setup program will not find them in a different VLAN. You will have to manually enter the database and add the IPs to the ‘videodevice’ field in the ‘capturecard’ table.
After changing transcode to automatic, it seems to be working again.
In Plex, I record 2020 Paris Olympics and then we have to look at the recording to get see what the events are. In Channels, we record the items we want to see. They are both running on docker on the same server. The wife is happy at least but I’ve moved all HD Homerun recordings back to Channels (aside from the duplicate recording of the olympics).
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Having poked around my PMS log, I can see forum posts going back before 2019 (with no resolution) on some of the errors that still show up. I still can’t account for why plex is so much slower than channels other than code optimization.
I have my first missed recording happening. As I’m on the West coast of the USA, my coverage doesn’t start until 5am local time, but coverage has been on for 3 hours already (due to east coast 5am start). Plex says it’s a scheduled recording, but it’s not recording on it right now. My next scheduled hour does look like it will go. The late night recording tonight (which starts at 11:30 local) also appears to not be scheduled to record (it’s not in my DVR list). The record light is on the LiveTV list that says it will record, but then it doesn’t show up in the DVR list. I can’t seem to force it to record either. I’m watching it live right now, but I was hoping to not have these issues these games. Anyone at #Plex care to comment. Thanks.
Just to say i have been looking at this topic and setting to New and Repeat airings does seem to work. I missed all but the first ep of the day on Sunday because i did not have it set that way
afaict the issue is in that there is no episode numbers and when they all fall on same day it think subsequent ones are repeats even though they are not, since only going by date.
Thanks to all here who have provided info here to others
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@RinjiRyu You should nuke channel 9.1 from your available lineup. Go to “Settings” then “Live TV & DVR” and select the link that lists how many channels you have enabled on your tuner:
Then just deselect any channels you don’t need. I only have the ones I need for the Olympics enabled and nothing else, for example:
Boom. No more problematic channels.
Oh! That’s a great idea, thank you!
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That is also what I did and it worked. You get some dupes but at least you get them.
Edit (added more info, fixed spelling)
Edit 2 added images showing DVR late night issue.
Thank you for looking into this. I am curious about an issue I saw (it’s only happened a couple times). The recording showed up in the TV timeline as being scheduled, but didn’t record. The hour before recorded. The hour after recorded. But for some reason one hour in the middle was skipped. In addition, I have missed several of the late-night episodes (11/11:30 PM start time) including (according to the schedule) tonight’s upcoming airing. I tried going in and modifying the recording, but it always has modify recording not schedule recording. Not sure why it is recording it some days and not others. It’s not a huge thing, and Plex DVR is working far better than both Tokyo 2020 (2021) and Bejing (2022), but there are still a couple of small issues to work out. My thanks to Plex for working so hard on it over the last 2 years to correct the issues that occurred during the previous games. I will add, that I have not been able to playback anything I have recorded yet, so I cannot speak to the issues that happened with playback (which were much less significant than recording issues from 2 and 3 years ago). Again, my thanks to the team for putting in the work to make everything run a lot smoother.
hi @phonehome thanks for a screenshots. I’m not sure why that is happening. Is it only that episodes which is still airing past midnight?
@BigWheel (sorry, forgot to hit reply to your post specifically) Hi. Sorry for my delayed response. The first day of the games (Saturday 8/27) the system didn’t record from 3-4pm in a similar situation. Generally, it has been the late night (post news) “episode”. The start time on that has varied, some nights it’s an 11pm start. Most nights it’s 11:30pm start. Rarely, it’s a 12am start. I have a total of 3 recordings for this time slot. I should have 5 recordings. Additionally, it is skipping (most of the time) the overnight re-air of Primetime (which is a separate recording schedule from other Olympic events). Not a big deal as it truly is a repeat of the Olympic Primetime from the previous night (usual start time is 1am), but it should be recording that as well, as I have Primetime set to record new and repeat airings. Thank you for your help! I’m happy to provide any additional info that is needed. Edit: In looking ahead, it appears that all of the future episodes of the late night show are scheduled and showing up in the DVR schedule (at least as far as I can see in my programming right now).
I have been running into this issue to and I just observed what some of the issue is. I watched it record the 9am - 9:30 episode and then as soon as it was finished and added to my library, the 10am-1pm episode disappeared from my DVR schedule. It still shows in the guide as recording scheduled, but isn’t in the DVR schedule. The names of the episodes are different (“Swimming Heats: Men’s 100m Fly & More” and “Swimming, Track and Field” respectively).
Before the 10am episode began, I moved the 9am episode to a folder Plex can’t see and deleted it from my Plex library. After that the 10am episode returned to the DVR schedule and is currently recording as intended. When the 9:30-10am episode finished recording the 11:35pm-1am episode disappeared from the schedule in the same way, again the episode names were not the same (“Men’s Basketball 3x3: France vs U.S.” and “BMX Racing, Basketball 3x3”).
It appears that there may be some internal episode number or something that is causing Plex to think that episode is already in the library, but I’m not sure what that would be. I have it set to record new and repeat airings, but that appears to be only in regards to if the guide has is marked as “new” it doesn’t appear that the DVR will record an episode already in the library unless it is an upgrade on existing quality. Has anyone found a solution?
FWIW, the primetime show is working fine recording the initial showing each day and skipping the repeat airing that occurs at 1am. This clearly is how the system is supposed to work, but it is confusing separate episodes as being the same episode for the main “2024 Paris Olympics” show.
An override to record duplicate copies of the same episode would solve this problem independent of any EPG conflicts or confusion. I wouldn’t mind manually splitting (or using play version) the episodes if that would solve it, but that doesn’t appear to be possible with the current setup.
@Fletcherc21 do you have it set for only “new” airings. I know the olympics is almost over but setting it to “new and repeat” airings should get the later episodes of the day.
it does have to do with them not having episode number index and just going by air date unlike most daily shows this has multiple episodes in the day causing the issue with no index.
As I said, I have it set for “new and repeat” airings, the issue is that Plex is thinking some of these episodes are already in my library and won’t record something already in the library unless it is an upgrade in quality (in which case I believe it would replace the existing episode). This appears to operate completely independently of the new or repeat settings.
@BigWheel For mine, I have set Primetime to “New and Repeat” airings and it is skipping most of the overnight repeats of Primetime. Which if it’s set to new and repeat it should not be doing, as far as I understand how things work. This is WAY better than Tokyo and Beijing, but still not exactly how I would like it to be. It is much improved though! I appreciate all the Plex team has down to make changes. Still some things I wish it included (I would like to just record a channel manually, not sure why that is not a feature yet), but overall the improvements made since Beijing are quite good. Thank you!
It appears that “repeat” airings means reruns (based on the “new” tag in the guide) that are not in your library. I think all these problems could be solved with an option to choose to have duplicate episodes recorded and added to the library.
@BigWheel Missed recording. It’s set to NEW and it’s not recording. My system is supposed to be recording everything today. And it stopped recording at 10am and will not start again until 12:45. This is not supposed to happen. I don’t know why it is happening. It shows in my guide as being scheduled. But my DVR schedule doesn’t have it. Given it’s New and shows as being scheduled, this is very frustrating. Screen shots included.
Do you have the logs from when it should have started recording?
