Plex Setup - What is the absolute best way?

I am in the process of setting up a “system” where I can store several terabytes of media (music, photos, TV shows, movies).

My eventual plan is to venture abroad to obtain more content and automatically have it categorized as well.

This “system” may be a retail NAS or it may be a DIY home server (presently looking).
This “system” will have MUCH better specs than my laptop.
This “system” will be attached to the Gigabit network. It may also have the capability to attach directly to my Yamaha RX-V671 receiver via HDMI.
I am inclined to leave the “system” upstairs attached to my Asus RT-AC68U AC1900 Dual-Band Gigabit Wi-Fi router which is attached to my bridged Cable modem).

All media will be played/displayed only on the downstairs TV.
The TV CANNOT use Plex Media PLAYER.

All my media devices which constitute my home theater (Blu-Ray player, Cable PVR, Wii, ROKU 3, and TV) connect to the receiver via HDMI.
Gigabit Ethernet connects to my Blu-ray player, Cable PVR, ROKU 3, and receiver.

I have a Windows 10 laptop with a single AMD A4-5000 quad core CPU @ 1.5 Ghz and 8Gb DDR3 SODIMM RAM.
The laptop has Ethernet and HDMI connectors.

The ROKU 3 is setup with a Plex Channel but the interface and navigation leave much to be desired.
I have an Android phone.

My questions are as follows:

  1. Where do I install Plex Media SERVER?
  2. Where do I install Plex Media PLAYER?
  3. What is the absolute BEST way to hook up everything Plex-related?

I appreciate all responses and hopefully you will be willing to include explanations as to why your setup would be best.

I apologize in advance if this post is too long or not in the proper place.

THANKS!

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No-one can really give you an answer as each person will have different requirements and one thing might work better for one person than another.

based on your questions my answers would be

  1. Where do I install Plex Media SERVER? - This for me is installed a Virtual Machines which sites on a Dell Poweredge 2950 (though the data (movies, tv shows) are all on a “hp gen 7 N54” microserver with 4x6 TB in RAID 5) both the HP & Dell servers have at least 2 nics.
  2. Where do I install Plex Media PLAYER? - We have the Plex App installed on all of our TV’s (LG & Samsung), Mobile phones (iPhone’s) and on my laptop & tablet (both windows) for streaming when outside the house.

What is the absolute BEST way to hook up everything Plex-related? - It depends what hardware you have to hand, how much you want to spend, if you will be transcoding etc.

@mellontes@gmail.com said:

  1. Where do I install Plex Media SERVER?
  2. Where do I install Plex Media PLAYER?
  3. What is the absolute BEST way to hook up everything Plex-related?

1: On a WD PR-4100
2. On an NVidia Shield
3. All your stuff goes on shared folders on the WD PR-4100. Plex server #1 runs there, has HW Transcode for up to 4-ish clients at a time. Plex Server #2 runs on the Shield, which points to the same locations on the PR-4100 for storage. This gives you both a powerful player as well as a “secondary server” as needed

You already have a decent player in the Roku 3 connected to your one TV. You don’t need another & as it will play most anything so you don’t need the Plex server to do any transcoding. A low power NAS will be fine. I currently use a Seagate Personal Cloud which is probably the lowest powered NAS on the market & it can stream at least four simultaneous 1080p videos to clients.

I run a QNAP TVS-871 16GB stacked full with 8x8TB Western Digital RED drives.

I shelled out though and got the TVS-871-i7-16G: Quad-core Intel Core i7-4790S 3.2 GHz (Turbo boost to 4 GHz) version.

This thing is running on my Virgin 200Mb/s download, 11Mb/s upload internet connection.

I’ve wired the house with CAT-7 cable, completely replaced all the CAT-5e I was using. I also replaced my network switches with small 8-port TP-Link units.

My Sony TV has Android built-in with a Plex client, but I find the Xbox One client to be far superior.

As for clients, look at the Plex web site, there are clients for:
iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Roku, Apple TV, nVidia SHIELD, Android TV, Xbox One, Playstation 4, Amazon Fire TV, Chromecast, and XBox 360 (I still have two 360’s I use in spare locations in the house).

The NAS is connected using 4x1Gb ports teamed up, with options to add 2 10Gb ports if I find I need to at any point. This I foresee as a possibility when I want to send 4K video around later…but it’s a future-resistant thing (never say future-proof - no such thing).

I also have wireless ac routers in the house, and I have a 4G connected tablet as my phone if I really can’t find a WIFI connection.

The server transcodes nearly anything on the fly, and it’s usually the connection that lets me down, so for the really big stuff (like recently a certain Star Wars blu-ray unconverted-but-packaged into an MKV file) I keep 4 different copies so I can stream it to anything from my tablet/phone if I’m walking to the shops, or I can download to a device with some decent memory directly and have it play locally on that device. Plex will handle conversion for you for download.

You also have the ability to set the outbound data limits, so Plex will transcode for you on the fly if, for example, your nephew wants to watch those episodes of Doctor Who at your sister’s house on weekends before she wakes up. It can also be used to ensure the server is prepared for any sharing you might do, in case said nephew has a said cousin who wants to watch some Disney movie at the same time.

So far the only bad message I’ve ever gotten was from a client, and it was always ‘your connection speed is not fast enough to play at this data rate’ (or something similar). Typically, that lasts a couple of seconds and before you know it I watch the next half hour of Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD (all bought legally and on the semi-sealed dust-free cabinet/shelf, thank you) without any problems.

That enough information for you? I know I shelled out, but with that amount of data space and a Core i7 of that spec tucked neatly into an aired but designed-against-dust cabinet behind the wall mounted TV (where I also wall-mounted the XBox One, 360 and Virgin TiVo, along with a Logitech hub controlled by both a Logitech Elite setup with RF and IT and devices by RF-IR which has just had Amazon Echo’s Alexa voice control added in (yes, the UK is in there as well now).

So now I’m enjoying setting up IFTTT commands to go with Echo/Alexa’s Logitech control with a Logitech THX surround system (which booms, by the way - I don’t need a 2K+ sound system to enjoy my movies in a house) with a NAS that can even output 4K directly if I so choose.

Oh, and now I’ve shown off a bit, I also run two virtual machines on the TVS-871, as whilst Plex is running it’s also capable of running an ARK: Survival Evolved server and a spare server I use for screwing around with (not literally).

Lastly, there’s an absolute b*ttload of software available for the QNAP TVS-871 (or maybe better now, I’ve had it a little while and I’m still awaiting the 4.3 version which will go 64-bit OS instead of its current 32-bit OS - I mean, how awesome is it going to be when it goes 64-bit. It’s already been in testing for months and months so should be ready very soon).

I withdraw the question, I wasn’t looking for specific makes and models of NASs, nor was I looking for specs of a home server computer, The “system” would be one of those which would have the required OOMPFFF to run everything, This was clearly stated.

As stated, ROKU was NOT an option because of the terrible interface. Despite this, one person recommended ROKU with a low-powered NAS. What is the point of the compatibility guide for NAS devices if any old piece of crap will work?

I was more interested in HOW it all hooked up (HDMI, Network)…which devices went where, etc. and where the Plex server and media player should be ON THE DEVICES I LISTED,

Thanks…

@mellontes@gmail.com said:
As stated, ROKU was NOT an option because of the terrible interface. Despite this, one person recommended ROKU with a low-powered NAS. What is the point of the compatibility guide for NAS devices if any old piece of crap will work?
No need to get offensive. Your question was answered. Your requirement is very simple i.e. playing content on the one TV so in this case any old crap will do as all the NAS needs to do is stream video over wired Ethernet without transcoding. The library functions of Plex are a very light load on the server. It’s only transcoding that needs a lot of power.
Apart from the the web interface the Plex UI is pretty much the same whichever client you use so if you don’t like it on the Roku then you won’t like it on the Android phone or Fire TV 4K or PS4 or Xbox or PMP or whatever so why are you even bothering with Plex if you don’t like the interface?
Plugging it all together couldn’t be simpler. Connect the old piece of crap by Ethernet cable to your router. The Roku 3 is already in place connected to your network by Ethernet cable & by
an HDMI cable to the TV. Job done.

What is the point of the compatibility guide for NAS devices if any old piece of crap will work?

Assumption Storage and plex server are separate :slight_smile:

Assumption you said you had Ethernet connected at you tv area so i guess that runs back to your Switch/router ?

so keep your Storage and plex server close to the core of your network .

Storage connected to Switch/router then Plex Server connected to same switch/router then map shared folder to plex server

Replace Plex client that is connected to your tv with one with a good gui , then just do the same as you do with the rest of your devices . plug in Ethernet cable connect to receiver done .

I dont like the roku as well but each to their own.

have a look at Nvidia or Evan aTV4 their gui is not bad

Note: NAS is for serving data NAS=Network attached storage not Network Application Server LOL

Buba013.
Storage and Plex SERVER will be in a retail NAS or home-built NAS (my “system”) which will be connected directly to the router. The rest of the home theater components (TV, Blu-Ray, Cable box, receiver, etc.) connect to a switch which connects back to the router.

check - storage and Plex Server very close to each other.

you lost me at mapping a shared folder to plex server. Which shared folder??? Huh???

Not sure what you mean by replacing Plex client. I thought the whole idea was to use Plex media PLAYER in conjunction with the Plex server. You have me confused more than ever…

The Plex client looks & feels pretty much the same whatever particular hardware you run it on, There are dedicated apps for particular pieces of hardware e.g. Roku, Apple TV, Android phone etc & Plex Media Player is the client running on a PC or Mac. That’s why I don’t understand you not wanting to use the Roku as your client. Download & try PMP & you will see that it looks just like Plex on the Roku but Plex on the Roku has a nice dedicated remote for easy navigation on the TV screen. It’s been a complaint of some that this consistency between different clients results in dumbing down to the functionality of the least able client but Plex argue that it aids the user to have a consistent UI & aids their development to have all clients similar.

nigel,pb,

As I understand it, setting up Plex on the Roku means getting the Plex channel. Is this correct? What else is involved in the setup?

Also, since everything runs thru my Yamaha RX-V671 A/V Receiver, is it possible that this is helps to make video codecs playable?

I am trying to understand exactly how the video codecs are played and what devices are involved in making it all possible.

My setup

  1. 5 year old dell PC
  2. 2x4TB USB external hard drives.
  3. Rokus on every TV.
    All videos have been converted to H264 and AAC for no transcoding. All commercials have been stripped out too.
    It may not be the “best” but it has run for 2 plus years and it was fairly cheap to build.

@mellontes@gmail.com said:
nigel,pb,

As I understand it, setting up Plex on the Roku means getting the Plex channel. Is this correct? What else is involved in the setup?
Install the Plex channel which is effectively installing a Plex app on the Roku. Then you have Plex Media Server running elsewhere on your network serving up the video files. PMS can run on everything from a low end NAS to a Xeon server.

Also, since everything runs thru my Yamaha RX-V671 A/V Receiver, is it possible that this is helps to make video codecs playable?

No

I have what I consider to be a bare bones system. I have a Synology D216se with a pair of WD “red” drives that run at 5200 rpm. Synology comes with Plex server installed, although it might need updated. I stream to a Fire TV that runs the Plex player app, this is over a wired gigabit network through a netgear router and one small net gear hub near the tv. Then HDMI to the flatscreen. I’ve been tinkering with Plex settings for about a yeat now. One thing that was detrimental to me is letting Plex optimize my digital files, so I turned that off, unchecked. I’ve recently set the remote playback setting to 1080 at 20fps. It actually seems to be upscaling some of the older dvd’s I’ve converted. Esp, colors seem deeper. This setup runs nicely, I’ve yet to see it buffer after watching several 1080 movies.

@ucjb said:
My setup

  1. 5 year old dell PC
  2. 2x4TB USB external hard drives.
  3. Rokus on every TV.
    All videos have been converted to H264 and AAC for no transcoding. All commercials have been stripped out too.
    It may not be the “best” but it has run for 2 plus years and it was fairly cheap to build.

How do you strip out the commercials? I use TABLO with 4 receivers to catch OTA signals. I have a smart tv that is Plex aware.

I use MCE Buddy and comskip

Yeah, I originally started running on an HP all in one. That was using iTunes to an Apple TV. I liked the fire tv better so that led me to plex. I was streaming from an iMac for a while, then switched to the NAS.

So??? I have buy a NAS and put all my files on that NAS, like hd and uhd MKV files, I will be able to easily stream those files via the plex app on my lg tv? Meaning, that my lg tv will do the transcoding of the movie?

When I hook up an external hdd to my tv it plays all these MKV files without breaking a sweat. How will this be influenced when have the NAS run the plex servers and basically streaming all movies to my tv. Will the plex app on the tv load the library and stream every movie with any effort?

PS: i dont really need to stream multiple stream etc, just use the nas to stream movies and pictures straight to the tv via the wired network.

Any advice guys, before I invest in a nas etc?

thanks