What’s this, Plexamp?! I had no idea it existed. Super excited but after baking it for 3 days on the new Android HU, I went to sync my main playlist only to find out downloads are limited to 24 hours. That’s a show stopper for me. Why does Plexamp have this limitation and the Plex app does not?
Please add an option for Plexamp to download the entire playlist.
100% agree. With phones having massive storage capacities these days, let the USER decide how much storage they want to use. Don’t impose a silly arbitrary limit of 24 hours.
totally different design, and design goals 
we may enhance in the future to allow bigger downloads, but plexamp’s current offline system is more geared towards downloading “sliding windows” of smart playlists.
for example: “all my highly rated tracks which i haven’t listened to in > 2 months” will result in offline content which stays fresh, and takes up less storage space.
i know, i know, people want everything all the time, but in most cases you also have connectivity 
Understood. Is there anything on the road map targeting Android head units / launchers, not android auto? 24 hours of music tends to get repetitive in the vehicle. I understand it’s a much smaller market.
Challenges of using the full Plex app in automobiles:
I’m keeping plexamp installed only to see some day the option to download all the music I listen to (which is around 4k tracks). I’m quite surprised coming here to read the CTO telling people what’s his preferred way of consuming my own music. I’m sorry, Sir that’s unacceptable. As a software architect myself, I don’t see the big deal of giving me the option to download my whole playlist and sync it regularly. I for one can’t use the app and consume my whole data plan with the lossless tracks I got in 2 days because the CTO thinks I should be doing things differently. That’s so messed up. Listening to music is personal thing and basic features matter. Don’t forget your payling user base. We are people who consume out own content and want to do it the way it makes sense for us and not the way some guy with opinion thinks it makes sense. So working basic options/features are a must here.
He has also explained that the download system isn’t designed for it so it isn’t just a case of the developers ‘imposing’ a specific way of listening.
I would object to that design regardless. “plexamp’s current offline system is more geared towards downloading “sliding windows” of smart playlists. for example: “ all my highly rated tracks which i haven’t listened to in > 2 months ” will result in offline content which stays fresh, and takes up less storage space”
That design will result in higher mobile costs for end users that are away from their LAN for an extended period of time. Granted, given current conditions, travel is limited but that won’t always be the case. Not only that, it requires users to rate their music on a regular basis based on the star system. I would bet I’m not the only one that thinks that’s a huge pain in the ass. Something like Amarok’s rating system, which included the number of times a song was skipped, played through entirely, etc. in their rating algorithm, might work for that. It’s unfortunate that project did not get more traction.
At this point, Plexamp is limited to me as Plex was prior to implementing playlist syncs and allowing sync of original quality, which was what I waited for until I purchased my lifetime membership.
Obviously a feature request and one I don’t think would take much to implement but I am not a programmer. However, I’m familiar enough with systems architecture to understand large playlists could impact performance and could be taxing on older hardware, especially playlists that add / remove on a regular basis.
All that said, I still think I should have the option to download an entire playlist, regardless of it’s size. Happy to sign a waiver. 
He explained it isn’t a design goal. To translate that in a user language - “we want to do this thing because we think its cool and we don’t wanna do that thing because reasons.”
Design goal isn’t a lack of alternative, neither a problem if designing a feature that supports both. It’s some guy or group’s opinion what will go in the backlog based on personal goals and obviously not what’s a simple base feature most of us (the user base) expect it to be.
I don’t wanna “fresh” music, picked by a sliding window of fuzzy listening stats. In my world that’s someone else’s way of enjoying music. Neither me, nor my friends and family consume music that way and I’m so critical because this is imposed on me by the guys I pay to give me good tools of doing my own thing (not theirs).
naw, that’s bullshit. we chose those goals based upon how we saw the majority of people using sync in general. we don’t hear a lot of complaints about it.
it’s not “fuzzy listening stats”, it’s your listens.
While the current limit is fine for most people (me included most of the time), it seems a bit arbitrary to not allow more than 24 hours for those who wants it. I have a couple of playlists that are longer than 24 hours, and I’ve always had them as my goto lists when I’m going to be offline for a longer period of time, which do happen, although not very often.
I’d love playlists longer than 24 hours. As a workaround at this point I’ve had to split playlists up so I can have the music I want for on the go. Data is EXPENSIVE in Canada, always connected is not ideal at all.
we’ll be looking into removing the restriction in the future, but we’re not a fan of the “download 50k tracks to the phone” 
Any ETA on this feature request? The latest update of Plex just horked downloaded media. I can no longer see my synced media and Plex crashes when I click on the Manage bottom on Downloaded Media. 
hey, try it out with the limitation…i think if you make the right smart playlists, you’ll find it more than manageable.
if you’re looking for entire library download, there’s no plans to offer that at the moment, only to expand the limitations and allow browsing into downloads.
Thank you for the prompt reply.
I’m sure that works for a large portion of customers, but it doesn’t for me. I’m in the U.S. and I drive 5-10+ hours a day on road trips, sometimes back to back for multiple days, and a small playlist quickly gets awfully repetitive. It’s a lot less effort for me to export my playlist from the DB, rsync to an SD, and use the default Android music app on the device to map the directory then click shuffle.
You can download several playlists, each 24 hours worth.
That means I’d have to spend time breaking up my current playlist, which I am not willing to do.
Much quicker to export the list with:
sqlite databaseBackup.db “select file from media_parts left outer join media_items on media_items.id = media_parts.media_item_id left outer join play_queue_generators on play_queue_generators.metadata_item_id = media_items.metadata_item_id left outer join metadata_items on metadata_items.id = play_queue_generators.playlist_id where metadata_items.title = ‘List Name’” > sync-list.txt
And then sync that list to your SD card/Music. Load stock player and shuffle.
It sucks that I can no longer use Plex for the purpose for which I purchased it but perhaps I will be able to again another day.
Elan - I don’t mean to be argumentative, but I’m genuinely curious. Can you offer some examples of smart playlists that work really well, or maybe some best practices for what kinds of things give good (or) results for playlists?
I know this is for Elan, but I just wanted to chip in here a bit.
I personally put 24 hours of downloaded music of the playlist “fresh love”. Because this playlist uses advanced parameters to only serve highly rated tracks you haven’t listened to in a while, hence fresh. This gives a lot of rotation in the list without having to do anything.
Then enable the feature that PlexAmp updates the downloads every start, and disable download over cellular (this is the default settings) and PlexAmp will automatically keep the list filled with 24 hours fresh downloaded music when you open it on wifi.
So now, unless you listen 24 hours in one go, this playlist should always have new and fresh 24 hours music for you. This works for me.
Of course, this requires that you rate tracks on Plex.
That’s exactly what I would have replied as well 
You can also make a smart playlist which is just e.g. not played in last 3 months without and rating criteria, and that will essentially cycle through your entire library.
I generally have these sorts of playlists, and then a Library Radio which I refresh manually whenever it gets boring.
