Plug-Ins

I would prefer an actual PLEX staff member address this issue instead of all the people that don’t actually know what is going on…rather they just whine and complain and speak as if they do know cause they are pissed off. :smile:

I just upgraded my server from 1.14 something to 1.18.0.1944 and notice that plug-ins are no longer there. This is total crap!!! I use the plug in WEB TOOLS to do maintenance on my server as well as share playlists with my members. Since PLEX makes crap tons of money from all of us paying members maybe you should actually listen to us once and either add the damned function to share playlists or put plug-ins back so I can use my WEB TOOLS to do it.

Matter of fact, put plug-ins back in anyway as removing that feature is total 100% CRAP!!! Are you thinking you are GOD’s now? If so please let us all know so we can dump your software and move on to something that at least they actually talk to the people using it and maybe, just maybe, actually add features 99.99999999999999% of people ask for!!! And NOT adding features they want that no one else every asks for or wants…

Thanks and since you won’t reply… please refund my lifetime membership money…or reply and actually do what we ask you to do…and stop adding crap features no one wants except YOU!!!

Greg

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This has been posted in the Announcements section since September 2018:

There were several threads at the time that had Plex staff responding (including Elan) but I don’t know if they still exist or not.

As an aside, I’ve got Plex Media Server 1.18.0.1944 installed and WebTools still works for me although I don’t use playlists.

EDIT: The switch in server versions probably exposed the new interface and they moved Plugins. You can see the settings for Plug-in’s by clicking the Settings icon in the upper right hand corner, then clear at the bottom Plugins is under Manage.

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That’s actually pretty insulting.
There is absolutely no excuse for anyone not knowing about this at all.
The discussions here on the forums on the whole subject have been going on for 13 months.
Even for people who don’t use the forums (like 100% of the users I share with) there was an email. Most of them asked me what it meant at the time.

After 13 months why should they… But occasionally they still do for some strange reason.

I actually agree partly, however you cite no examples?
If you mean things like Tidal, News, Podcasts and Web Shows, well that takes 20 seconds of your life to disable them and make it like they never happened. That 20 seconds is far outweighed by some of the amazing stuff Plex has done and is still doing recently.

Anyway apologies for replying, as just a humble user, you prefer we shouldn’t reply at all. I guess I’m just a humble user who hasn’t had his head buried in the sand for 13 months…Who also doesn’t have newsletters from Plex blocked.

I’m certainly not a humble user who would jump four major versions of any software ever…at least not without expecting for a whole host of things to have changed.
#PlexRuinedMyLife

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yep, they work hard to f**k customers.

they remove good things that people use and waste a lot of time on implementing s##t that nobody use, like tidal, live tv, web shows, podcast.
like how many month and you still cant disable the s**ty tuner service that run in the background 24/7 even if you dont have a f##king dvr.

they never listen to customer, they only do what money pay them. obviusly tidal pay a good money and all of us need to go to disable that s**t while they drop support for plugins, didnt fix problems with audio passthrough since forever. awful subtitle support. disable plugin for old sony tvs and blame sony, etc.

they work really hard to lose customers. thanks god i didnt pay the lifetime pass.

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WebTools is still usable, since it has its own user interface.
You can find the list of plugins under
Settings - Server - Manage - Plugins
(last menu item on the left side)

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No excuse not to know about it except that I actually have a life. I work 12-18 hour days as a chef and don’t spend all my time living on the forums. I come here when I have an issue. I did a search and found NONE of the information that has since been shared thanks to my post. I don’t recall any email…but then again, as I stated, I don’t spend my life on computer related crap. It’s quite possible the email was tossed by me or by the spam filter. I get over 1000 emails a day and I actually read maybe 4. So… lol

The reason for my asking for actual plex creators only is that I have read MANY posts where all people do is (female dog) and complain instead of actually answering the questions that people have asked. Thus I wanted an actual answer, since again, a search of the topic came up with people talking about plug ins but NOT their removal from plex…except for a few threads where others were also NOT happy they were gone and asking why…and getting NO ANSWERS from the creators… Just more complaining from other users.

However, I did find the plugins now in the settings area… And as of last night could still get my WebTools to run. Guess that’s until they decide it has too many great features and make it not work anymore.

Greg

I did actually find it when I was checking on the settings in the upgrade to make sure things were still as I wanted them. Thanks for the info!!!

Yep, we all have lives. But our personal lives and circumstances or the state of our email inbox are not Plex issues. They did communicate it and answered here on the forums a lot…so.
In case you missed it (and I missed mentioning it earlier also) almost all plugins run on Python 2.7 and its EOL early next year.

…and sorry, that’s just stupid.

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No problem! Glad I could help.

Stupidly a fact…
Web Tools is a GREAT add-on the PLEX. The features it offers are nothing short of GREAT! And at least ONE of them has been begged for by probably 99% of every person that has ever posted in the forum and wanted by probably 95% of every server owner there is, on the forums or not. Yet PLEX keeps adding garbage crap features that NO ONE wants or cares about and ignores several great features that almost everyone wants and cares about. Yes, that IS STUPID!!!

Greg

Newish user, here’s my 2 cents on the matter.

I haven’t looked into specific reasons plugins are being pulled, but i would have to guess its probably technical, legal and financial, all rolled into one. Plugins are a nightmare for software as a whole, can be used in an exploitative manner, put a burden on support, potentially make a parent company liable etc etc… Plugins also take away the ability to monetize a lot of content, and can open up legal issues for the parent companies as well. It’s a tough call, but I honestly assume it’s usually a money thing for more established companies, and a burden issue for smaller - just my opinion, not declaring the intentions of Plex.

I get it to a degree. I personally enjoy the ability to use/create plugins for any and all software I use - I like to customize and add to already existing software, regardless of how well it may be out of the box. I also get the aforementioned issues plugins can bring - I have been focused in software QA for 6 years, and have been in development since I was in high school. I also get both sides of the money issue - companies need to earn money, but there is a balance to keep between profiting and out greed.

For me, the lose of plugins is a hard sacrifice, but Plex is going to do what they are going to do - they clearly did not regard the user protest to it as anything meaningful, so that’s apparently that. Best of luck to Plex, hope the ability to monetize outweighs however many users your may have lost or might lose in the future. I’m sure Plex will be fine in the end, up or down. But really, plugins weren’t the “final straw” for me - I was weighing the benefits, and decided to take a look at the forum for some pearls of wisdom… hoo boy.

Mod’s have certainly made it clear they don’t give a hoot what those people feel, and that they can piss off. I get that decisions have been made (however misguided or shortsighted or whatever you want to say about it), but the apathetic, almost hostile response to people interested in plugins remaining is… an Interesting way to respond to people paying for a service to say the least. Not being a long-time forum user, I don’t know the hierarchy of the Plex Totem-Pole response team, but the threads i’ve read to have left me feeling like a response is needed from … whoever is higher up on that Totem Pole. Not sure if that’s coming, but I feel it is needed - and I’m not even he one that was being responded to. Yikes.

Fanboys are doing as fanboys will do, defending any and all decisions their god-emperors pass down with abrasive hostility and a demeaning tone. These people exist in any scene, and they certainly are a double-edged sword for any business, one which I look to for advice about a product, but not one I expect any thought-out criticism or suggestions from. It’s got a religious-like fervor to it. Always good to stay loyal to your chosen products, but gate-keeping criticism, mocking current, new or old customers with anything negative to say, and the “holier than thou” attitude really turn people off of a product they might be interested in (**this comment itself would likely get a few “well, we don’t want YOUR kind of user involved in this product anyway…”) responses in a busier thread!).

I’ll say it again, yikes. If the lack of interest in the user base response (however small it may actually be or is claimed to be) was the kindling for this fire, the response from the above archetypes was the unexpected gasoline that was water baloon-ed into this now-raging inferno. Hostility from the fanboys and apathy from the Mod’s are the closer for me - while I can respect the mods consistency and sympathize with the nightmare that is forum administration as aw whole, the toxicity shtick that seems to be ignored (maybe even approved of) is it for me.

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The totem-pole doesn’t get much higher than Elan and he has responded many times in the subject. You know, a year ago when plugin removal wasn’t ancient news.

But regardless…

There are many reasons why plugins are being removed.
We may or may not believe the reasons given by Plex. It’s really of no consequence.
There is one indisputable fact though.
Almost all (if not all) are based on python 2.7
Python 2.7 becomes obsolete early next year.

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Wow!!!

I guess you mean WAS an important part.

More importantly, no one seemingly cares (least of all Plex) about anything you say. It’s not gonna change because of your childish rants. There are plenty of things that suck about Plex but who cares? I mostly use Emby and there are an equal number of things that suck about that too.

EDIT: I’m happy to wear my alleged Plex fanboy hat again.
I can get around the lack of HDR on the ATV 4K in Emby, however I can’t get around that playlists in Emby are just dumb.

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C’mon, Man… they’re working on it - and have only achieved an 8% failure rate (so far).
Hang in there, Buddy. It’s ‘Coming Soon’.

(but, yea… plugins are gone)

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