3 clicks takes me to a wall of blaring trumpets 10 seconds before the end of the theme song and 4 clicks takes me to ‘The First Joke’ - already in progress…
I’m told by Plex’s answer to Mr. Roku Fix-it Guy (lol) that, currently, is the best we can do. He has sent up several flares at Roku Inc - but apparently they’re not taking his calls…
That’s also why Skip Into truly blows goatage. It dumps you out right in the Wall-O-Horns 10 seconds from the goal line.
If you really feel that way you know you can easily turn it off, right? It’s not like you have a constitutional right to not be exposed to TV show intros. Someone once wrote, “Life is all about compromise… this is one of them.”
People have tried to help you avoid them but if their efforts are unacceptable just say no thanks. Maybe they’ll improve the methods, maybe they won’t.
Not sure where you learned that insulting someone’s efforts to help you when you’re not satisfied is the best response.
Really, if the guy wanted to insult you. There would be no second guessing. 
Banter at worst…
He wasn’t insulting me, I’m not involved in the creation of anything to do with Plex. Just baffled at the way some people react to things they don’t like.
Skip Intro Blows on the Roku.
It’s not even close.
The Roku Team Leader is trying to gain the attention of Roku Inc ('cause he’s tried everything else), but he’s being treated like a Plex User is treated by Plex by being totally ignored. Kinda sad when you see it happening to somebody else…lol
It works OK (a bit closer, barely usable) on FireTV (but the 30 second skip hits it just right and is the weapon of choice - why is that?).
I don’t want them to remove it.
I want them to care enough to FIX IT!
Family Guy is going into it’s 20th Season.
20 Years with the same theme song, in the same place, at the same time, for the same length of time. If Plex’s Skip Intro is going to impress me, it’s not going to dump me out in the middle of the HornWall, but rather in the 1 second of transition between the theme song and the first joke.
There’s plenty of room for the 30 second skip Roku ripped from our cold, dead hands (and the 30 second skip on the FireTV) to HIT PERFECTLY - WHY THE HELL CAN’T SKIP INTRO HIT IT?! Why the hell can’t 3 VPT frames on the Roku, touted to be 10 seconds each, and add up to what looks like 00:30 on the scrubber, add up to the 30 I need to skip an intro I’ve been listening to for 20 Years, instead of dumping me out on the sidewalk 4-9 seconds from the target?
I’m just asking the hard questions…
Keep yelling at me (anyone/everyone)… it drowns out the crickets…
This is not an attack, I’m genuinely curious. You make this statement fairly regularly when these topics come up; what is it about the app on Roku devices vs. the one on Apple TVs which makes you prefer it so much? I have both (Roku Premier, Apple TV 4K) and there’s not much between them functionality-wise (at least that I notice). I actually prefer the Apple TV a bit simply due to the ease of scrubbing through content. You can use the 10 second forward/back feature, or you can just move arbitrary amounts of time using the remote’s pad.
And the app looks really good, in my opinion, on the Apple TV. They’ve put a lot of development effort into it and it shows.
Also, compared with my Roku Premier, my Apple TV 4K is also a lot snappier performance-wise. I’d expect that given the cost difference, but it is better in that regard. Perhaps the Ultra is closer in UI performance, but it would have to be significantly better than the Premier.
As far as I know, the only real knock against the Apple TV 4K as a Plex client is its inability to pass through certain audio formats (Dolby Atmos). It still passes lossless audio, but Atmos is lost in the process.
I have never said the Apple App sucks.
I can only compare Roku (in the Royal UNO family - like Apple)
to FireTV (in the Royal UNO Inbred Family - hidden away on Android - or in the South of France… lol)
… and in that regard - THERE IS NO COMPARISON! It’s an embarrassing joke Plex is playing on themselves thinking we don’t know the difference.
If the ghost of what’s his name still wasn’t requiring payment from the afterlife and previously eaten fruit didn’t cost as much as a Shield - I might try one… I hear Roku and Apple UNOs are really nice (I can speak for the Roku). I doubt I’ll be seeing an Apple 4K sumpinsumpin Refrub at Amazon any time soon and I’m also certain I’ll never see one for $60 - except maybe on E-Bay (before the Apple Police close in for the kill).
Does that mean Roku is the Discount Apple?
I don’t care what we call it - I’ll take as many of those $60 Roku Refurbs as I or my IMF Team require.
There have been no attacks.
Just conversation/debate - I’ll get the next pint kinda stuff… that regularly happens in pubic venues - back when humans talked to one another in person wearing Zoot Suits instead of Haz-Mat Suits.
Fair enough. But that’s a pretty broad statement of crappiness. Someone might get the wrong idea .
For the OP’s benefit, I’ll throw in my endorsement of the Apple TV 4K as the best standalone, non-mobile client available, with the qualification that I’ve not used the Nvidia Shield TV (or any other non-Fire TV Android TV client for that matter).
All Androids are infected with the same disease - Android - apparently.
Roku and Apple are… different.
Better I think.
FireTV and Roku I don’t think - I KNOW - I’m not stupid (according to Mom).
I’m with Juice on this. I’ve got a somewhat recent Roku TV and an Apple TV 4K. I use the Roku app 99% of the time, mostly because the Apple TV app isn’t “better” and I can pick up the Roku remote in the dark and know which way is up.
I think playback starts quicker on the Roku TV, but if so it’s a gnat’s hair.
I agree that seek-scrubbing is the best use of the Apple TV remote, but it’s finicky and you can’t tell up from down in the dark.
If I had an Apple TV already I wouldn’t buy a standalone Roku to replace or upgrade it. I’d tell an Apple person to use their Apple TV and I’d tell a new person to get a Roku.
There was something, I don’t remember what, that I watched on the Apple TV. Because it could Direct Stream or Direct Play the combination of content + weird subtitles, and the Roku couldn’t. It was easier to use the Apple TV than to repackage it.
For the handful of 4K+HDR things I’ve bothered with, either has played them fine. I don’t have a 27.4 surround system though, so I don’t know as much about high-end audio formats.
I have multiple friends with Fire Sticks and Fire Cubes and such. They’re … yup. Adequate. Fine. I don’t have enough experience to say they’re bad or anything. Most of the time I spend dealing with them is just telling my friends to set the Bandwidth/Quality/Direct Play settings, since they got reset by an update, again.
The Roku just “feels” like a set-top box. My mom can use it. 
That’s what I want when I’m being a couch potato.
I used Roku 4K, FireTV Stick 4K, AppleTV 4K.
I think none of them has RF remote.
I terms of remote usability, Roku is probably easiest.
In terms of GUI, Apple is the best if family is used to smart TVs but remote would require some getting used to it.
FireTV is very easy to use but interface is a bit complex, content and apps mixed together and could be a bit confusing to elder.
For my parents, i bought a ROKU and they were quite happy with it using for Plex and Netflix. Especially there are some religious channels you can get on ROKU 
Both the Roku and the Fire TV use “RF” remotes. I do not know about any Apple devices.
Apple TV Bluetooth with IR
Haha. My mistake. I actually meant None of them are IR. both are RF/Bluetooth which you pair with the stick.
Followup…
I’m slowly getting used to the ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕ ⮕OK combo move required for skipping commercial breaks. However, wasn’t the whole point of the right arrow thing that it’s moving between “thumbnails”? I haven’t seen any preview of the pause point pop up, so I’m “flying blind” while skipping.
VPT are enabled in both the DVR library I created to record into and the original “TV Shows” library I already had (which the DVR, annoyingly, seems to choose by default).
I dug into the details of Roku apps and realize now why the Plex folks can’t control the media playback. I assumed Roku apps were, like on most platforms, compiled code responsible for their own UI, streaming, etc. Not so with the Roku. On Roku, “apps” are just fancy scripts, cobbled together in XML and a custom scripting language called “BrightScript” that looks like an unholy descendant of VBA. The platform gives you incredibly limited ability to control the stream.
At this point, I really don’t think about that much anymore. And I came from the paradise that was the 30-seconds forward, 6-seconds back buttons in Media Center.
Is it possible you haven’t enabled it to scan for thumbnails?
https://support.plex.tv/articles/202197528-video-preview-thumbnails/
I think to see the VPT, you have click UP (so the player/timeline shows), then right/left.
I’ll have to check later on my roku tv.
No. On my Rokus a simple press of either right or left pauses the video and brings up the thumbnails and then you can navigate to the one you want by using the same arrow keys.
I have to press UP (or DOWN) first otherwise it just does 10 second skips.
That sounds like the FireTV (Android) App.
If Video Preview Thumbnails are generated - as soon as the right D-Pad Button is pressed the VPTs are shown on the screen above the scrub-bar and Right/Left D-Pad skip one 10 Second “Frame” either way - or you can hold down either D-Pad Button and it will Run as long as you hold it down.
Another use for the actuall FF/RW Buttons - is to skip quickly through big lists. It’s like Page Up/Page Down… makes quick work of 300 Westerns in my Westerns Collection…lol
