5 votes are not enough

I disagree because I just find myself not caring about voting for any new ideas after the first couple times I rethink them.

  1. half my votes have been in the the top ten for years, one of which is over 6 years old.
  2. In light of #1 it makes the hassle of visiting another page to un-vote in order to re-vote seem like too much hassle for something that might never happen anyway.

So you end up with a skewed picture of votes that shows the popularity of new ideas in relation to how many new users at the time hadn’t fully used up their votes.

If we knew that the most popular ideas were the most likely features to show up next then rationed votes might give you a good picture of how people value the ideas. As it is now I think it just convinces people to give up on the concept of voting after they try it once or twice.

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I’ll chime in here because I can. I agree we need more votes. I have all my votes tied up FOR YEARS. As PLEX changes so do customers usage cases and then things that matter to them.

One possible semi-solution for the would be to have ā€˜stickied lists’ of requests. Thus, When something gets enough votes for PLEX team to even consider it gets placed on the ā€˜under consideration’ list, voting is stopped, and votes are freed up to become useful again. Similarly you could have a ā€˜never gonna happen’ list that would free up votes for other, more realistic, things.

This way some interaction about the requests is present from the PLEX team, we don’t feel like the votes are useless, and PLEX gets an idea about features that matter to customers.

All of this is predicated on the idea that the requests ARE useful and not just an endless list of missing features that are never going to be considered, much less implemented, like it seems now.

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i am a member elsewhere were a similar suggestion forum is used. they use a base point system as well but there are more points given for different user levels and length of time using the product.

All users get Say 5 in this case then monthly subscribers get an extra 3 per year of subbing - life timers get and extra 5.

So those who pay monthly get 3 more off the bat per year of subbing

life timers get an extra 5 at start then an extra 3 a year.

this system both supports current user base with possible expansion and tiers and could even be tweaked. this way the new users would have to be mindful of there 5 possible 8 votes and the long term users can weight in for the more long term suggestions. this system only works with better transparency in terms of a could be done but not now response after so many vote or a cant be or wont be done at all response.

To be honest I think the voting system is a bit of a cop-out for the Plex Team. If they just paid attention to what is ā€˜Trending’ (ugh… I hate that word) from Plex-Pass users then they could prioritise things better. If we are to have a voting system then absolutely no reason why the votes should be unlimited with a restriction to one vote per suggestion. I know it’s hard work and time consuming and the Plex team who do a fantastic job but when a product is more involving and immersive(ie skin selection etc) the more successful it will be.

It doesn’t.

I just closed one of the topics you voted for to test (will reopen in a bit) Your profile shows you only have 4 active votes now. Can you please try to vote for something else or tell me what you see on your profile.

It worked. My profile only shows 4 used votes, and I can vote for something else. That’s the first time it has worked (that I’ve seen).

ok i just reopened it. does it show your 5 now on profile.

There was a bug discovered about 6months or so ago where if the topic was moved to another category then closed it would not give back the votes. Should no have had anything to do with stuff that stayed in the category but I suppose that might have fixed whatever you were experiencing.

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Yes. Yay!

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That might explain it. I didn’t notice in the experiment you just did, but does the vote count drop to zero when you close it? I’m wondering about the closed requests that still have votes.
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I don’t currently have any votes in closed threads, but there are hundreds of votes that people may not know they have.

That is intentional. the topic will still show vote count even when closed it is just essentially inactive.

It needs to save on the backend that it is an inactive vote in the case of it needing to get reopened. Also just for the sake of someone asking something like ā€œWhy was X implemented when it had no votes?ā€ so it shows how many it had when it was closed.

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I kinda thought that might be the case. Thanks for checking into this.

Now we return to regularly scheduled programming: ā€œ5 votes are not enough.ā€ :slight_smile:

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Would be great after X amount of time you get 5 new votes you can add else where. This would let you still keep your votes going and help request other features.

Example after 1 month you get 5 more votes.

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the ever grinding campaign ā€œto get more votesā€ when they dont mean jack…
after all if they did then they would publicly say at what point votes wise is something done even if plex dev does not want to do it…

we all know they will always say you’ll get it one day even if that day never comes in your life’s usage

In reality most Plex users only get 2-3 votes not 5… Since 2013.

All this is doing is preventing features that should be getting votes from getting votes. Votes shouldn’t be unlimited but 3-5 votes forever is absurdly low. At least reset the count (but don’t delete the vote) every few months. There are features I want that have been asked for for years. Do I waste a vote on that? Is the vote I give to another feature request just going to sit there for a few years, when I could be adding my support to something else.

The responses from the development team are disappointing. The ā€œpictureā€ you’re getting isn’t an accurate one. I suspect this is being done under the guise of using resources more productively. But as time goes by and people use up votes on feature suggestions that just sit there, you get a less and less accurate view of what long time users want. Over time new forum users get more weight in this type of voting system.

Start with 5 (Regular) and 10 (Plex Pass) then maybe after 3-6 months the regular user gets 1 additional vote and the Plex Pass users gets 2. You still emphasize the importance of voting for what’s most important with limited votes, but you end up with a more accurate picture over time.

EDIT: Funny enough after posting this I checked my votes. One was stuck in a thread for an implemented features that was closed by a mod ā€œto give votes backā€. If that part of this system isn’t even working as it should how can the developers think this is giving them accurate info?

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This may have been due to a bug in the forum software explained in this post.

If you flag the post and use the ā€˜something else’ option, you can let them know and they can fix it.

I realize it’s a bug. Very few people are ever going to see the post explaining the bug. How many people have votes tied up in closed threads? How is this giving developers an accurate picture of features wanted by users?

Again, not suggesting unlimited features. Votes should be restricted to encourage voting on what is most important to users. However, 5 votes forever, especially when this bug exists is incredibly problematic if Plex wants a real insight into what customers want.

Since Plex pays very little attention to what users really want I fail to see how it really matters if a user get one vote or twelve.

Plex will do what Plex wants to do regardless of user votes. That seem to be the common way the mases get ā€œhandledā€ by the higher powers.

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So very true. I’ve gone back and looked at the threads with the top votes. Many have existed for years and years and years.

They very much do seem indifferent.