221 Series/Collections containing about 600 movies (eg Indiana Jones Series, Star Wars Series, etc) each painstakingly filed into separate folders and .nfo files updated with the tags (thank you www.MediaElch.de embermm is ever better! (but avoid the new beta version, very buggy!!)...
Plex clients I use: Roku, Win8, PlexWeb, Android...
As AsphyxNYC patiently explained, I just want to immediately VIEW and BROWSE my Movies section, and see one icon for each Series/Collection, plus an icon for each movie that doesn't belong to a collection.
How annoying and non-intuitive is it to have to apply a filter which just displays a TEXT list menu of all the collections (great, so now I have to scroll through a text menu of 221 items!! yuck!!!)??
The beauty of Plex is ... it's beauty! It's a beautiful interface that immediately and GRAPHICALLY (not textually!) shows all your media using lovely icons.
So I want the same experience for my collections. I just want to go into my Movies section and see a bunch of icons, INCLUDING ONE ICON FOR EACH SERIES/COLLECTION.
That's it. Immediately accessible. No filters or searching required.
Plex supports a "collection" field. All that is missing is a "skin" that displays those collections as icons (instead of just offering the filter-by-collection option).
I have a similarly sized library and do not share the same preferences. With that many pieces of content, I am almost always using a filter or searching. This is not because collections are not used (they are), but because after a certain point browsing takes too long anyhow. Scrolling through 2500 movies is bad but so is scrolling through 1000 collections and single movies.
The topic is unfortunately and (I am sure) accidentally misleading. The agents will assign collections based on the data in TMDB. After turning it on you do not have to do anything else. You may not like the collection it puts things in, but those are automated collections. I think if the topic were called something more specific, you might get a better response. Perhaps "Unified movie and collection view option" would be more helpful.
I have a similarly sized library and do not share the same preferences. With that many pieces of content, I am almost always using a filter or searching. This is not because collections are not used (they are), but because after a certain point browsing takes too long anyhow. Scrolling through 2500 movies is bad but so is scrolling through 1000 collections and single movies.
The topic is unfortunately and (I am sure) accidentally misleading. The agents will assign collections based on the data in TMDB. After turning it on you do not have to do anything else. You may not like the collection it puts things in, but those are automated collections. I think if the topic were called something more specific, you might get a better response. Perhaps "Unified movie and collection view option" would be more helpful.
Yes your almost always using a Filter because you have to clean up the Mess that is the Movie section display MANUALLY when the Media Manager and PlexWeb should be giving you a clean interface so manually filtering isn't necessary!
I think thats our point here! Why should we need an extra hoop of adding these things to collections only to have to jump to another hoop just to see and Benefit from the work we did?
Yes your almost always using a Filter because you have to clean up the Mess that is the Movie section display MANUALLY when the Media Manager and PlexWeb should be giving you a clean interface so manually filtering isn't necessary!
I think thats our point here! Why should we need an extra hoop of adding these things to collections only to have to jump to another hoop just to see and Benefit from the work we did?
Are you suggesting that this be the default, now? That is not just asking for the new view, but asking to force it on everyone else.
Are you suggesting that this be the default, now? That is not just asking for the new view, but asking to force it on everyone else.
It's forced on you for TV shows isn't it?
TV Shows are flattened down by Series then Season then Episodes...
Would you like that feature removed too because you like a messy display?
Imagine a TV Section that just listed every episode contained without any flattening where to find a series or season you had to add filters...
Want that do you?
And I said to someone else there is a grand total of 6 of you who voted against this and over 100 that want this!
One of the main features of Plex over Twonky is the interface!
Twonky does what you like...
I stopped using it because of the mess of a display it created and the impossibility for anyone who isn't technically minded (Like kids under 10) to navigate and find their content!
You 6 are in a severe minority!
And for the record I don't oppose a setting to flatten or not flatten series just about every application that does flattening has this!
But then again they also HAVE flattening...Plex does not!
Because everyone that uses Plex chose to view and vote in this thread. Due to the poor wording of the question, it was not clear for what they were voting. At least some did not realize that collection information was already pulled from TMDB. Some seem to have voted for a feature that already exists.
Because everyone that uses Plex chose to view and vote in this thread. Due to the poor wording of the question, it was not clear for what they were voting. At least some did not realize that collection information was already pulled from TMDB. Some seem to have voted for a feature that already exists.
I notice you sidestepped the question regarding if TV Shows should be done the same way as you want Movies to stay....
Why wouldn't that be good too?
As for the Poll 160 vs 6 is pretty good sample size to determine which way the wind blows on this issue isn't it...
Face it your in the major Minority of liking a shambles of a display page regarding Moves when most users want Collection Flattening to tidy up the hodge podge of movie display we currently have.
Sorry if and when Plex implements this due to POPULAR demand you will just have to hope they make a setting to keep display vomit or you might have to switch to Twonky which still does it and takes daily complaints on their site about it.
They even refuse to flatten TV Shows by series on Twonky! You might love it!
I notice you sidestepped the question regarding if TV Shows should be done the same way as you want Movies to stay....
Why wouldn't that be good too?
As for the Poll 160 vs 6 is pretty good sample size to determine which way the wind blows on this issue isn't it...
Face it your in the major Minority of liking a shambles of a display page regarding Moves when most users want Collection Flattening to tidy up the hodge podge of movie display we currently have.
Sorry if and when Plex implements this due to POPULAR demand you will just have to hope they make a setting to keep display vomit or you might have to switch to Twonky which still does it and takes daily complaints on their site about it.
They even refuse to flatten TV Shows by series on Twonky! You might love it!
TV shows and Movie series are different animals. The topic did not warrant discussion.
If the current handling of movies were as backward and unpopular as you suppose, Plex would never have outstripped other media software in popularity. I'm glad you have found a display you want so badly. More power to you. But to insinuate that your preference should be forced on the rest of the Plex userbase that seems quite happy with it is a bit off.
There are threads with far more likes that still represent a small minority of Plex users. Again, I hope you get the view that a few hundred of you want. I just don't want the rest of us forced to adopt it.
Simply add a SORT BY "Collection". Filters are great if you are looking for something absolutely specific. However, I despise filters. For my movie purposes a filter is an utter waste but a "Sort by: Collection" would be wonderful. Not forced on anyone, Should be simple enough to implement. Everyone wins and movie lists everywhere get cleaned up.
Option 2: Grouping like titles by folder. Simply allow movies in the folder to pass their images through to the folder. Make it apparent that it is a container and has more than one object in it. If the blank folder icon weren't so god awful, I'd just go that route.
TV shows and Movie series are different animals. The topic did not warrant discussion.
If the current handling of movies were as backward and unpopular as you suppose, Plex would never have outstripped other media software in popularity. I'm glad you have found a display you want so badly. More power to you. But to insinuate that your preference should be forced on the rest of the Plex userbase that seems quite happy with it is a bit off.
There are threads with far more likes that still represent a small minority of Plex users. Again, I hope you get the view that a few hundred of you want. I just don't want the rest of us forced to adopt it.
Whats different about them? What about TV shows is any different than Hunger Games 1, 2 and 3?
Please explain?
As for FORCING users it is you who is forcing your preferred mess on everyone else who appear to be voting to correct what you want forced on us not the other way around!
The reason Plex has become popular is because it doesn't do what you want for TV Shows the way Twonky does do what YOU prefer....
It's biggest plus is it's interface but that interface is not complete yet.
We are asking them to fix it and if you insist on thinking your in the Majority I suggest you start a get out the vote campaign going because all 6 of you are not going to win the day on this argument against 160+ who want it!
Whats different about them? What about TV shows is any different than Hunger Games 1, 2 and 3?
Please explain?
As for FORCING users it is you who is forcing your preferred mess on everyone else who appear to be voting to correct what you want forced on us not the other way around!
The reason Plex has become popular is because it doesn't do what you want for TV Shows the way Twonky does do what YOU prefer....
It's biggest plus is it's interface but that interface is not complete yet.
We are asking them to fix it and if you insist on thinking your in the Majority I suggest you start a get out the vote campaign going because all 6 of you are not going to win the day on this argument against 160+ who want it!
No one needs to force anyone. I am super pro choice. Everyone can win in this situation (except the devs who now have to put more effort in). Just add the option to sort by collection and add a field to specify which movie is which series.
No one needs to force anyone. I am super pro choice. Everyone can win in this situation (except the devs who now have to put more effort in). Just add the option to sort by collection and add a field to specify which movie is which series.
That is why this thread is confusing. The field to which you are referring already exists. You can use it today. It just doesn't hide all movies in a collection behind one item when in the "All Movies" view.
Whats different about them? What about TV shows is any different than Hunger Games 1, 2 and 3?
Please explain?
As for FORCING users it is you who is forcing your preferred mess on everyone else who appear to be voting to correct what you want forced on us not the other way around!
The reason Plex has become popular is because it doesn't do what you want for TV Shows the way Twonky does do what YOU prefer....
It's biggest plus is it's interface but that interface is not complete yet.
We are asking them to fix it and if you insist on thinking your in the Majority I suggest you start a get out the vote campaign going because all 6 of you are not going to win the day on this argument against 160+ who want it!
TV shows have seasons, can span hundreds of episodes, may or may not be fictional, etc. A short TV show is 14 episodes. Few movie series (even if you are very lenient with your definition) reach 14 titles. While a movie might belong to many collections (Batman movies, The Dark Knight Series, etc.), an episode really only belongs to one TV show even if it is a crossover episode.
You are the only person suggesting Twonky. Let it go.
As for a minority, the Parental Controls thread has hundreds more likes than this thread and has been called a minority of users by the development team. Their call, not mine.
Discuss the merits of what you're asking and stop with the personal swipes. This is an area for helping determine what should be in a product we all like.
TV shows have seasons, can span hundreds of episodes, may or may not be fictional, etc. A short TV show is 14 episodes. Few movie series (even if you are very lenient with your definition) reach 14 titles. While a movie might belong to many collections (Batman movies, The Dark Knight Series, etc.), an episode really only belongs to one TV show even if it is a crossover episode.
You are the only person suggesting Twonky. Let it go.
As for a minority, the Parental Controls thread has hundreds more likes than this thread and has been called a minority of users by the development team. Their call, not mine.
Discuss the merits of what you're asking and stop with the personal swipes. This is an area for helping determine what should be in a product we all like.
Well lets just take your TV Episodes point up shall we?
A TV Series like ROME has a grand total of 22 Episodes
A Movie Series like James Bond has 24 Episodes and counting
So much for that theory!
You want Parental control more than Movies Flattening then fine!
GO to that post and stop trying to talk devs out of this feature!
That is why this thread is confusing. The field to which you are referring already exists. You can use it today. It just doesn't hide all movies in a collection behind one item when in the "All Movies" view.
It doesn't exist in a largely useful manor. There is no sort for it. Only a filter. I'd rather see it flattened, sorted, or the title posters passed through than to see it filtered. Regardless of this point, I'm not looking to fight with ANYONE about it. Plex is wonderful. All I am saying is that in the event that the devs get some time, it would be nice if they could add a few other ways to sort titles. Add the easiest ones first, the sort field I suggested. Then add some others when time permits. keep ALL of these new looks as OPTIONS. Everyone here can win and it doesn't even need to be difficult on the devs. In the end, I absolutely agree that a nice flattened interface would be great (Harry Potter, LOTR, Bond, Star Wars, etc... would all benefit from this type of view). I also agree that it is not entirely necessary but that something should be added to make it considerably more clear (The Hobbit does not currently sit anywhere near the other LOTR movies). Again, filters are terrific if you know what you are looking for but if you are scanning through your movies looking for something to watch it's useless.
So I call an end to the fighting. We can all win! Our enemy is not each other but the messy disorganized mess of our movie collections. Let us no longer bicker about who is right and wrong but band together to make a change all of us can enjoy!
And what would you do in the case of a movie belonging to multiple collections? Many movies should legitimately belong to multiple collections. The collections view works quite well for that. XBMC has no collections view and therefore cannot solve the problem in any way but a fairly odd solution grouping movies in the skin itself.
I have not seen a reason not to use the collections view for this instead of the regular one.
You must not be very imaginative, if you cannot think of a reason. You seriously want people to ceate collections for every movie series? That might well be hundreds of collections, each with just a few movies. That wouldn't help navigation or improve the 10-ft view of your library in any way. All it'd do is mess up the collections view and create lots of manual labor for all users wanting this.
XBMC has a plug-in that automates this grouping, so if you have movies that the scraper determines is in a series (e.g. Iron Man), they get grouped together and only one image is shown when browsing movies. It really helps clean things up, and above all, it's an automatic process. I don't care at all what you can do by manually editing things, I just don't have time or desire to do so.