OK that was my bad, some how I managed to screentshot the same file twice. I am ripping using makemkv and then using HB to encode to MP4. The MP4 file is supposed to be his
I don’t seem to have mediainfo when right clicking on the file in question, I hope that’s better.
Is there anything in that, that would suggest why it doesn’t play back as well on the TV compared to the PC
Yea - 16 reference frames.
Don’t know what idiot you found to recommend that - but it wasn’t this idiot…lol
You are still searching for a magical HB Profile that will turn your DVD material into 4K. Stop looking. It ain’t there.
Use my settings and adjust your bit rates and speeds to suit you.
16 reference frames isn’t anything you got from me.
Guaranteed.
Use Auto - or Main for the Profile
Use Auto for the Level.
You had to find some really bogus HB Profile that put 16 reference frames in your video - whatever profile that was - delete it. You’re creating material that won’t work on anything.
OK well that is weird because I had the encoder profile on auto and the encoder level on auto.
I’ll try it again.
what should it say in the reference frames row?
1 to 4 depending on what Auto thinks it needs.
It won’t think it needs 16 - guaranteed.
I just went through all those useless profiles and 2 of 'em had 15 reference frames and 1 B Frame. Not sure what kind of crap that makes, but you don’t need it.
Start with the BASIC HD Profile.
The ‘Advanced Options’ window is blank - always.
Mirror my settings (and with a Blank Advanced Options Window - it’s basic) - adjust bit rate and Encoder Preset to suit your eyeballs.
Make 240 Second Previews.
Put 240 Second Previews in Other Videos.
Watch 240 Second Previews on everything you have - and find the failure point - or success party.
Delete every single one of those Magic Profiles.
None of 'em are worth a hoot.
Don’t use 'em - and you can’t if they’re gone.
Put ref=4 or ref=5 in Advanced Options if needed.
It may be legal to use 16 reference frames according to H.264 standards, but it also causes trouble for many clients. Ref = 16 is essentially a good way to guarantee a video transcode.
For 1080p video use High@4.0 or 4.1. Notice that H.264 1080p Blu-ray discs are High@4.1, so no need to go above that.
For DVD/480p, you can use High@3.0. When I use auto/auto in Handbrake it picks High@3.0 for DVDs.
Look at the Levels section in the Wikipedia entry for H.264: Advanced Video Coding - Wikipedia
3.0 covers 720x480 @ 30 fps.
3.1 covers 1280x720 @ 30 fps
4.0 covers 1920x1080 @ 30 fps.
If you’ve high frame rate or higher resolution material, adjust accordingly.
Try this:
Options/Preferences
I hope an Windows Explorer restart makes it happen.
Those last 3 are really magical for fiddlers - like us.
OK that bit worked so I can now right click the mediainfo thanks.
The reference frames seems to be determined by the encoder preset speed. I had got 16 because I had tried using the ‘slowest’ setting… Slower yields ref 8 which seems to work on most other films.
Is there any benefit to using ‘slower’ and inserting a ref=4 or ref= 5?
what does inserting bframes=5 do? I have seen that some times on suggested setting along side like this " ref=5:bframes=5" in the advanced options.
Not what I was expecting but that made me laugh a lot. Slightly worrying that you had that particular picture stored ready for use though!
Google
Picard Facepalm
there’s one for every situation and this one is a ‘double’…
We haven’t hit this one - yet…stay tuned:
lol
a Tv series of many lessons lol
OK enrich my understanding. I was under the impression that the encoder preset was just a case of the slower the speed the higher the quality. I wasn’t aware that it affected a detail that would impact playback on certain devises. I had therefore tried slow and slower settings as some DVD were just not coming out the same as others, even after I had been shown the interlaced/progressive difference. This must be wrong then? A slow enough setting = higher quality but that in turn means it won’t play well because it is too high??
Having left all the other settings alone ( I think, I may be wrong but unfortunately your earlier post with the settings you said was deleted so I may have been wrong somewhere) I had only changed the encoder ‘speed’ settings.
I’m not sure who is going to have the more interesting evening here, you because your laughing at my lack of understanding or me because of the Picard pictures I feel might be coming my way 
Humor… of all the life on earth - only we can laugh.
Early on I actually thought I could help.
I spent the 10 years searching for a way to make my DVDs look like 4K - I never could make it happen and, really, nothing I did made any difference. My DVDs are 480p (yours are 576p, wtf, man?) and that’s all they’ll ever be. <— and some of them look awful anyway - you can’t turn a Sow’s Ear into a Silk Purse.
I’ve never put the Encoder on Slow - that’s fricken madness - why would I?
So, here we’ve all learned something - and learned what NOT to do!
In about 9 years and 2 months you’re going to give up the search and just start encoding DVDs to an acceptable quality at an acceptable bit rate and use a bit of Lapsharp and call it a day.
Any differences you’re seeing in the various straws you’re grasping at - are in your mind. DVDs are as good as they get with my settings - 'cause I wasted 10 years on a foolish quest that took me nowhere - except older - and, of course, wiser.
Don’t pick up that hibachi with the hot coals in it with your inner arms - that ■■■■ is HOT, Grasshoppah… and leaves a hell of scar. <— but you gotta pick it up… I know… everybody has to pick it up.
It seems maddening that some DVDs don’t come out of it as good as others. I mean I’m not asking for 4k…really I’m not , but why don’t some encode as well as others?
For that matter why does VLC play it better on the PC
If your going to change the Resolution don’t, but if you have a fancy TV with scaling leave it up the TV manufactures Scaler processors and software. They have a better idea of what to do to scale your content to your large TV screen.
Example: 480P will be 480P or less. A 1080P could become 720P but who wants that outcome. 
DVDs are made by Big Media (or FOX) - in the same place they make tail-light bulbs that work right up until the cop is behind you as you and the gang try to make your getaway.
Stage three of denial? Were do I find my pixels?
That doesn’t help my OCD 
As Melvin said, this is as good as it gets. Then there was Verdell to the rescue
Let’s take:
Starhunter Redux
Oh my… here’s a crappy show you didn’t watch, but just have to get now that it’s all upgraded to 4K with super-duper everything. You download all 7 Billion Terabytes of it and…:
It’s 480p upscaled to whatever they want it to be - you spend a few days doing the same stupid ■■■■ you did and swore you wouldn’t, then when you make some Decent 480ps out of it, you find that’s about as good as it gets - and is a LOT smaller.
BTW:
I ran a few tests with the profile - making it slower - and sure enough Ref Frames increase the slower you go.
Well… if you want slower encodes increase the Ref Frames - 'cause it takes (much) longer to encode additional Ref Frames. If you want faster encodes reduce Ref Frames - 'cause it takes less time to encode fewer. Ref Frames do make it possible to squish more media into a smaller space - at the cost of time - but I can tell ya right now it’s gonna cost you a lot of time for not much payoff in the squishing area.
We’ve known that for Decades - didn’t need a slider to do that.
Ref Frames don’t effect quality AT ALL and encoding with more than a few is a big waste of time. In the old days when we had an Advanced Tab - you sure could make files that won’t work on anything with the various controls and settings and the ONLY setting I fooled with was Ref Frames - encoding 1 or 2 - to make my encodes blast through lickity-split.
That profile slider does SQUAT for quality.
It only ensures as you go more towards Placebo - the chances of creating files that won’t work increase. If you slam it clean over to Ultrafast, you ensure the minimum amount of Ref Frames and the fastest encode times - with ZERO effect on quality, but your file may be a few bytes larger… big whoop.
Handbrake at it again with helpful controls we don’t need, well, at least some of us don’t need - 'cause we found out Decades ago what we did need and we did it.
The Slider should go somewhere between Fast and Ultrafast - depending on your paranoia level - and should never go slower than Fast regardless of your paranoia level. <—unless you want to check out Plex’s Transcoder - and you surely will.
If ya REALLY want to make slow encodes - try a few these:
That’s painful!
The end result looks so good it’s worth it, but Man, pass me another Tylenol 3.
