How hard can it be to refresh meta date?

I don’t know what so say anymore. I lost many hours trying to get plex to name the damn episodes correctly. I added the series to tmdb myself and after plex got the meta data I realised I messed up a little. So I corrected the info on tmdb, but now plex won’t get the new data. I did the stupid plex dance, unmatched the series and rematched it again, removed the specials, removed the files from my server and moved them back on again, but nothing helped.

What does the button “refresh metadata” even do? It obviously doesn’t refresh anything.

Thats the series I’m talking about: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/85766-wissen-vor-8?language=de-DE

Server is 1.14.1.5488 on Ubuntu 18.04.1.

The problem is that posters are missing and the episodes of season 1 and 3 are in the wrong order. Posters are on tmdb and the order is correct there, too, but plex does not seem to care about it

If you show us your structure and naming, it might be a really simple problem and we can address it.

Also, Language setting in the library itself as well as matching the exact.

Can you show the names (with extensions) exactly as you have them, inclusive of structure ?

An abbreviated actual directory listing usually works best

I think I read someplace that Plex uses “proxy” servers (I think that is the term) for most of the web sites they scrape data from. So even though the real website shows they proper info, the information might not be updated for several hours or days, depending on the schedule used to update the information.

If that’s the case, you might have to be patient and wait for the “alternate” or “proxy” serer to be updated.

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Here you go:

├── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992)
│   ├── Season 01
│   │   ├── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992) - s01e01 - Die Zeit der ersten Lieder.mkv
│   │   ├── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992) - s01e01 - Die Zeit der ersten Lieder.nfo
│   │   ├── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992) - s01e01 - Die Zeit der ersten Lieder-thumb.jpg
│   │   ├── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992) - s01e02 - Zwei fremde Augen.mkv
│   │   ├── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992) - s01e02 - Zwei fremde Augen.nfo
│   │   └── Die zweite Heimat – Chronik einer Jugend (1992) - s01e02 - Zwei fremde Augen-thumb.jpg
│   └── tvshow.nfo
├── StarGate
│   ├── fanart.jpg
│   ├── poster.jpg
│   ├── Season 01
│   │   ├── season.nfo
│   │   ├── Stargate - s01e01.mkv
│   │   ├── Stargate - s01e01.nfo
│   │   ├── Stargate - s01e02.mkv
│   │   ├── Stargate - s01e02.nfo

│   │   ├── Stargate - s01e21.mkv
│   │   ├── Stargate - s01e21.nfo
│   │   └── Stargate - s01e21-thumb.jpg
│   ├── season01-poster.jpg
│   └── tvshow.nfo
└── Wissen vor 8
    ├── Season 0
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e11 - Animals in Love.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e12 - Grizzly Man.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e13 - Hinter den Kulissen.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e14 - Waechter der Wueste.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e21 - Koenigreich Arktis.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e22 - Serengeti.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e23 - Unsere Ozeane.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e24 - Sitcoms.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e25 - Historische Momente.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e26 - Hinter den Kulissen.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s00e31 - Hinter den Kulissen.mkv
    │   └── Wissen vor 8 - s00e32 - Unsere Erde.mkv
    ├── Season 1
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s01e01.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s01e02.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s01e03.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s01e04.mkv

    │   └── Wissen vor 8 - s01e42.mkv
    ├── Season 2
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s02e01.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s02e02.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s02e03.mkv
    │   ├── Wissen vor 8 - s02e04.mkv

    │   └── Wissen vor 8 - s02e42.mkv
    └── Season 3
        ├── Wissen vor 8 - s03e01.mkv
        ├── Wissen vor 8 - s03e02.mkv
        ├── Wissen vor 8 - s03e03.mkv
        ├── Wissen vor 8 - s03e04.mkv

        └── Wissen vor 8 - s03e41.mkv

And


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What do you mean with “matching the exact”?

Hi – the problem could be as simple as the API of TheMovieDb.org not accessing its underlying database in real-time. They get millions of requests and have to optimize how they handle those.

From my experience it can take up to 24 hours (slightly more in exceptions) for updates made to their db to tickle down to the API where it’ll also be available to Plex.

Beyond that… your naming and settings appear to be ok. Just give it a moment.

PS: is there a particular reason why you organized “Wissen vor 8” by topics instead of date/year based seasons? dvd organization isn’t necessarily a good organization overall (just my 2ct)

Sorry for the rant if that’s the case and it’s actually not Plex’s fault.

For me it was just faster to organize it this way. Otherwise I had to sort 120 episodes. This way i just left them in the order they were on the disk.

well… keep in mind it’s a community based database, so if somebody wants them organized by actual air date etc. they will be able to do that and mess up your library that way.

side note…
the show is also available on TheTVDb.com (w/ air dates, titles, descriptions…).
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/191151

It still doesn’t update the data

did the show match in the first place?
if not, you might need to perform the infamous “Plex Dance” or to manually perform the match (on the show level: Fix Match).

I did the plex dance and i also unmatched the show and matched it again. When matching it , there is only one search result and after I chose it, the old wrong meta data is back again

is this still about Wissen vor 8 or another of your shows?

still about wissen vor 8

can you confirm this particular show is still matched against TheMovieDb.org and not TheTVDb.com? Sometimes, Plex falls back to the library standard when doing a fix-match. As the show is organized by year (e.g. season 2014 instead of season 3), this could explain why you don’t get any metadata for the alternative approach you uploaded to TheMovieDb.org

How do I do that?

On the show‘s page, click … > Get Info > Show XML

<MediaContainer size="1" allowSync="1" identifier="com.plexapp.plugins.library" librarySectionID="19" librarySectionTitle="Serien" librarySectionUUID="7b7e83b1-010f-4648-8e12-6448214d3565" mediaTagPrefix="/system/bundle/media/flags/" mediaTagVersion="1544818278">
    <Video ratingKey="318508" key="/library/metadata/318508" parentRatingKey="318507" grandparentRatingKey="318493" guid="com.plexapp.agents.themoviedb://85766/1/1?lang=de" librarySectionTitle="Serien" librarySectionID="19" librarySectionKey="/library/sections/19" type="episode" title="Wie funktioniert Sicherheitsglas?" grandparentKey="/library/metadata/318493" parentKey="/library/metadata/318507" grandparentTitle="Wissen vor 8" parentTitle="Staffel 1" summary="" index="1" parentIndex="1" viewCount="1" lastViewedAt="1548354877" thumb="/library/metadata/318508/thumb/1549133507" duration="135960" addedAt="1549112279" updatedAt="1549133507">
        <Media videoResolution="576" id="301566" duration="135960" bitrate="5638" width="720" height="576" aspectRatio="1.78" audioChannels="2" audioCodec="ac3" videoCodec="mpeg2video" container="mkv" videoFrameRate="PAL" videoProfile="main">
            <Part accessible="1" exists="1" id="314379" key="/library/parts/314379/1547824556/file.mkv" duration="135960" file="/<Path>/Serien/DVD/Wissen vor 8/Season 1/Wissen vor 8 - s01e01.mkv" size="95810738" container="mkv" deepAnalysisVersion="2" requiredBandwidths="6299,5616,5616,5616,5616,5616,5616,5616" videoProfile="main">
                <Stream id="334399" streamType="1" codec="mpeg2video" index="0" bitrate="5414" language="English" languageCode="eng" anamorphic="1" bitDepth="8" chromaLocation="left" chromaSubsampling="4:2:0" colorRange="tv" frameRate="25.000" height="576" level="8" pixelAspectRatio="64:45" profile="main" refFrames="1" requiredBandwidths="6074,5410,5410,5410,5410,5410,5410,5410" scanType="interlaced" width="720" displayTitle="480i (MPEG2VIDEO)"/>
                <Stream id="334400" streamType="2" selected="1" default="1" codec="ac3" index="1" channels="2" bitrate="224" language="Deutsch" languageCode="ger" audioChannelLayout="stereo" requiredBandwidths="217,217,217,217,217,217,217,217" samplingRate="48000" title="Stereo" displayTitle="Deutsch (AC3 Stereo)"/>
            </Part>
        </Media>
        <Extras size="0"></Extras>
    </Video>
</MediaContainer>

This is s01e01. As you can see the title is “Wie funktioniert Sicherheitsglas?” while is should be " Woher stammt das Schmiergeld?"

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Make sure that ‘Episode odering’ is set to ‘Airing order’

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clear the agent cache. It might be polluted with incomplete or incorrect data from your previous attempts, when TMDB was not updated yet:
https://support.plex.tv/articles/202967376-clearing-plugin-channel-agent-http-caches/

I have simulated the show and I get correct episode titles:
(the missing pictures are caused by the fact that there are no episode previews on TMDB and I don’t use real video files to simulate the show.)

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Thanks. It was set to Airing order the whole time, but deleting the cache did the trick

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