@NewPlaza said:
I use the names “Flash, The (1990)” & “Flash, The (2014)” and have no issues.
A Miracle - call the Vatican. They do like to be notified when valid miracles occur. If authenticated by The Pope you could become a living Saint and get your own medal to be worn around the necks of millions, if not billions of devout Catholics World Wide.
@leelynds said:
@beckfield - thanks for the reply…I think the key-word in that tip is “remake”
Tip!: For identically-named remakes, include the year series folder name, e.g. "Battlestar Galactica (2003)" or "Dr. Who (2005)".And if you look at virtually any thread regarding Battlestar Galatica, Dr Who, or the Flash, the advice has been to add the year into the file name when you are dealing with the new version, exclude it when dealing with the older version. In other words, name it exactly as it is listed at the TVDB. That’s why so many people have mis-matches to the original version - they didn’t include the year in the new version or re-make.
The general consensus has usually been do NOT include year if the original, include year of it is the re-make, and above all, follow the naming at the TVDB. Nowhere do I recall advice to include the year in both versions, but that may be true. It just seems kinda suspicious that I couldn’t get “The Flash” to match the correct way, when others had the remake match the wrong way by not including the year.
Actually, I’m with @beckfield on this one. It’s kinda there in the help page. Sure it says “for remakes”, but lets be honest - remakes aren’t the only case that presents. Whilst the US SAG may determine that no two actors have the same name, TV Shows (and movies) themselves are wide open. So it could be a remake or a completely different show. Given I know the PMS requires a (RELEASE YEAR) field if it meets either of those conditions and I can’t be arsed checking the world to see if what I’m adding is ‘unique’ my default condition for a long time now has been to add the year. Haven’t had matching issues in a long time. I’ve had more trouble matching with dvd vs air date release orders getting tossed about by TVDB contributors.
I personally don’t think adding (YEAR) to the naming convention is onerous. It’s not much more than looking up the title to make sure that’s spot on, and the only next possible step is using the TVDBID isn’t it? Once you’ve got the year in the show folder and it scans successfully it’s not like you ever need to look it up again on TVDB to verify, you just copy the pattern.
DVR may be another matter altogether, and as has been pointed out - good luck getting a 100% reliable matching of EPG data to TVDB. Yikes.
edit: of course now I’m reading some other threads, trying to find evidence of the recommendation to exclude the YEAR from the oldest series, and I did find a couple referencing having trouble adding BSG 1978 vs BSG 2003. The only two I’ve found are from 5-6 years ago (tempus fugit!).
Is it possible that it was true (you should leave the year off the earliest production of a show) years ago, fixed in an update at some point and then broken again more recently?
I swear I’ve had no trouble when using YEAR rather religiously, the only real hiccups coming from different country of origin.
final edit [then I’ll shut up :D]: I can’t begin to explain the lack of logic shown in some of the current issues, I’ve never really looked beyond what the wiki page told me to do and the odd bit of forum research (I needed that to solve “Heartland (2007) (CA)”). But I wonder if it’s that we’re not using (YEAR) as a complete solution that’s causing the inconsistency/misunderstanding?
I’ve posted to that thread, with a screenshot, adding in under a couple of minutes a show called “Taboo” (the 2017 release). Another user could not and their screenshot demonstrated they’d used a root show folder name of “Taboo (2017)”. What their screenshot didn’t illustrate was the episode naming. Is it possible that this is just a case of the devil being in the details, requiring (YEAR) in folder and file names but not everyone doing that? Of course as previously confessed I’ve never bothered to really research the scraper, it’s largely ‘just worked’, so I could just be talking out my proverbial 
And of course maybe it’s just that I refuse to move off PMS 1.1.4 because I’m too scared Plex is going to fall in a steaming heap (https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/238200/1-2-2-randomly-stopping-on-ubuntu-16-04) and these issues are something impacting people on newer PMS platforms.
Carry on.
@jungwirth said:
of course maybe it’s just that I refuse to move off PMS 1.1.4 because I’m too scared Plex is going to fall in a steaming heap
Matching issues seem to escalate with versions after 1.27. My guess is something changed after that point in the process Plex uses to match TV shows, but that is pure speculation. But for those using alternate agents that do use the TVDB to gather info, or have issues with posters and other metadata even with the default TVDB agent, reverting back to an older version of PMS corrects the problem. I haven’t tried reverting back to 1.27 to see if that “fixes” this particular instance - The Flash vs The Flash (2014) - where the old rules of using the title exactly as listed at the TVDB seemed to have worked, and I don’t suspect I will.
Is it possible that this is just a case of the devil being in the details, requiring (YEAR) in folder and file names but not everyone doing that?
Heh-heh - as a test when I was trying to get the old version of the Flash to match, I found that the folder name was the only requirement. After the folder name was set to The Flash (1990) I could name the episodes with or without the year. Worked every time, either way. And that included doing the complete Plex Dance for the series with each and every test on two different servers. In fact, right now on my main server, The Flash (2014) and the Flash (2009) both have the individual episodes as just “The Flash - S01E01.mp4” - no year in either. I should probably fix that… 
Just to point out… “The Flash” is 1990 
@ChuckPa - one would think spell check should pick up on those kind of obvious mistakes … just sayin’
“uh huh” cheques dictionary 
@JuiceWSA said:
@NewPlaza said:
I use the names “Flash, The (1990)” & “Flash, The (2014)” and have no issues.A Miracle - call the Vatican. They do like to be notified when valid miracles occur. If authenticated by The Pope you could become a living Saint and get your own medal to be worn around the necks of millions, if not billions of devout Catholics World Wide.
What is the matter with you? He’s simply stating what has worked for him. Don’t be a dick about it.
@danjames92 said:
What is the matter with you? He’s simply stating what has worked for him. Don’t be a **** about it.
I will admit to having poor people skills (and you should own having no sense of humor),
but if you think that’s bad check this out:
https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1346348/#Comment_1346348
(not only is it correct and educational - it’s entertaining as well)
=))
To all:
@danjames92 said:
@JuiceWSA said:
@NewPlaza said:
I use the names “Flash, The (1990)” & “Flash, The (2014)” and have no issues.A Miracle - call the Vatican. They do like to be notified when valid miracles occur. If authenticated by The Pope you could become a living Saint and get your own medal to be worn around the necks of millions, if not billions of devout Catholics World Wide.
What is the matter with you? He’s simply stating what has worked for him. Don’t be a **** about it.
Hey, thanks… I took no offense to the comment. I actually laugh so hard I fell out of my broken chair.
My previous post was mainly aimed to show another way to match “The Flash” series. I always remove the words “the” and “a” from the title name.
In fact, while we are on the subject… PMS can give two sh**s about the naming of the individual episodes files, ONLY the folder structure and numerical nomenclature is important…
@JuiceWSA said:
@danjames92 said:
What is the matter with you? He’s simply stating what has worked for him. Don’t be a **** about it.I will admit to having poor people skills (and you should own having no sense of humor),
but if you think that’s bad check this out:
https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1346348/#Comment_1346348
(not only is it correct and educational - it’s entertaining as well)=))
Having poor people skills is not an excuse to be a dick. You know you could’ve just ignored his comment.
@NewPlaza said:
@danjames92 said:
@JuiceWSA said:
@NewPlaza said:
I use the names “Flash, The (1990)” & “Flash, The (2014)” and have no issues.A Miracle - call the Vatican. They do like to be notified when valid miracles occur. If authenticated by The Pope you could become a living Saint and get your own medal to be worn around the necks of millions, if not billions of devout Catholics World Wide.
What is the matter with you? He’s simply stating what has worked for him. Don’t be a **** about it.
Hey, thanks… I took no offense to the comment. I actually laugh so hard I fell out of my broken chair.
My previous post was mainly aimed to show another way to match “The Flash” series. I always remove the words “the” and “a” from the title name.
In fact, while we are on the subject… PMS can give two sh**s about the naming of the individual episodes files, ONLY the folder structure and numerical nomenclature is important…
Fair enough!
Update for all.
We’ve been investigating. Learned a few things nobody expected. Continuing to dig, explore, and experiment. We hope to have this formalized properly and written up tomorrow / friday at the latest for the dev team to look at.
