Interesting note, in reading the various requests for this in the forms (there are a lot) it appears to me that this features either isn’t well explained or people just assume it uses negative do not share tagging frequently. I’ve seen a couple of examples where people tagged only the media they didn’t want to share and only find out later when oops all they were sharing was unrated director’s cuts and porn. I know I almost made this mistake, and would have if I had shared my parents log in with them without logging on as them myself to see what their library looked like.
I think the best course of action is to offer both positive only share tagged stuff, and negative do not share stuff with this tag filtering.
jep, so did I ... (ahh, no, no porn!). I've been lucky that my youngest son is such a mama's boy and came running "Mum, what did you do with Plex. There are only boring, brutal movies and shows I don't like to watch ... and I can't find Sheldon and 'How I met your mother' anymore" ... whoops :wub: ! Each of his brothers would have remained silent and watched eagerly :ph34r: .
Once I got that, it's ok - I would think it's the batch edit what's actually missing. Either way - black or white listing.
I understand that everything being asked here is in relation to deciding what content to share, but I’m looking for something simpler. I want to be able to negate a content filter in the web interface.
For instance, I have two labels: “kids” and “teen”. I want to be able to create a filter so I can see the list of movies that do not have either one of those labels. This would be used to make tagging of the assets easier later on so I can only view assets that haven’t been labeled yet (which is a shorter list than things that have already been labeled).
If this this not that feature, then I’ll need to create a new request. However, I’ve seen similar requests get referred back to this one as the original.
I definitely would like to see a “blacklist” filter for sharing. For example, my mother is particularly sensitive to nudity in cinema; but she has no problems watching other R-rated content; so I would like to be able to tag the few items I have with nudity as “not for mom” without having to put them in their own library. That way her account simply won’t have access to the content and no lectures for me. WIN ALL AROUND. Accomplishing this with a whitelist filter would mean I have to tag Every. New. Movie. with the whitelist tag, which is far more cumbersome.
Now I’m +1’ing your feature and I just liked it… I really hope we can get the developer’s attention because I just can’t believe this is not a feature yet!!
In my case, this is ridiculous… out of over one thousand movies, there is 2 I want to exclude from sharing… and that means I have to tag all the existing movies for whitelisting, then keep on check for you ones and tagging them along. You have to admit this is ludicrous.
And the surprising thing is that it should not be hard to implement. Easy logic and only requires changes on the server and not the clients (one would assume).
@cayars said:
And the surprising thing is that it should not be hard to implement. Easy logic and only requires changes on the server and not the clients (one would assume).
Carlo
I agree this is needed, but when I brought it up a while back I got lip service about keeping the UX simple and uncluttered. My work around involves changing the rating of movies to limit what is shown to people. It is annoying to have the wrong rating for movies, but until this gets done its what we are stuck with.
@cayars said:
And the surprising thing is that it should not be hard to implement. Easy logic and only requires changes on the server and not the clients (one would assume).
Carlo
I agree this is needed, but when I brought it up a while back I got lip service about keeping the UX simple and uncluttered. My work around involves changing the rating of movies to limit what is shown to people. It is annoying to have the wrong rating for movies, but until this gets done its what we are stuck with.
I sure hope they can reconsider this… There are any number of ways to implement this that don’t clutter the UI/UX.
@higeko said:
Once I got that, it’s ok - I would think it’s the batch edit what’s actually missing. Either way - black or white listing.
I agree that the option to use blacklist or whitelist filtering is highly desirable, but it sounds like nobody is aware that batch editing is available. This at least makes it easier to live without blacklisting until better options are implemented.
Hold the Shift key and click on last movie (Just like most file managers, you can use Shift to select a range, or Ctrl to select/deselect individual movies):
Once you’ve selected all the movies you want to tag, and deselected the ones you don’t, click the ‘Edit’ button:
@beckfield said:
I did imply that it was a workaround.
This is true. But the problem is that EVERY movie/show added to your system then needs to be hand edited before it becomes shareable.
So technically it IS a workaround. In reality it’s not much of one or very much help for anyone who has a large library or is adding videos at a decent rate or uses any type of automation.
I’d like this to be implemented very simply, within the existing interface. still label the individual files but on the sharing tab be able to recognize a negation character suchas a minus sign. That way a a restriction like “-private” would show all labels except files tagged “private”
I solved my dilemma by creating secondary TV Shows & Movie folders with the blacklisted content and only allowed the desired users access to those additional directories. Works as well as I could’ve hoped but means a decent amount of restructuring efforts.
The way I blacklist content is by creating a new content rating filter. Since you can specify what ratings are allowed you can just exclude the newly created one when you share. Using this method I can exclude content from sharing by just adding that Rating to the info
@zombian said:
The way I blacklist content is by creating a new content rating filter. Since you can specify what ratings are allowed you can just exclude the newly created one when you share. Using this method I can exclude content from sharing by just adding that Rating to the info
It has been over a year since this was discussed in @cayars infamous “venting” thread. There is no excuse that we don’t have a working blacklist system in place now. This really needs to have been part of the whole package we got with Home, and not something we are asking for a year+ after the fact.
Someone sometime is going to share out private home movies of themselves and the wife in bed with the boy scout troop and get sued over this. Because the exclusions aren’t excluding but allowing and the guy that shared it didn’t know about how it worked… There have already been a few here telling about the near misses they’ve had. It’s a matter of time before it isn’t a near miss but a full on “Oh ■■■■!” with the only indication that something is wrong is when the cops are knocking on the door…
One thing in Plex’s favor I guess, they can’t be named in the lawsuit, because the user misreads the way it works… But you know, coffee cups from McD’s didn’t use to have “Caution Contents may be hot!” on them either…
I think a lot of these problems can be solved by two small additions:
“Select all” - selects all movies in the current filter
“exclusion filters” - so instead of being able to choose “horror” and it will show everything with horror… but WITHOUT horror… so you can select anything which isn’t horror. (note: not a blacklist label… just a filter)
+1. Another thing iTunes does well (not users!). Smart playlists in iTunes are very flexible and are good for filtering and therefore getting your metadata right. Some of that functionality in Plex would be great.
